Irreducible polynomial in extension field

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The discussion revolves around an irreducible polynomial \( p \in \mathbb{Q}[x] \) and its behavior in an extension field \( K \) of \( \mathbb{Q} \) where a root \( \alpha \) satisfies \( p(\alpha^2) = 0 \). Participants are tasked with proving that \( p \) splits in \( K[x] \).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants explore the implications of \( p \) being irreducible and the nature of roots in relation to roots of unity. Others suggest using properties of minimal polynomials and isomorphisms to analyze the situation. There are attempts to reason through contradictions and the structure of cyclotomic polynomials.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, raising questions about the logic behind certain conclusions, particularly regarding the nature of \( \alpha \) as a root of unity. There is a mix of ideas being explored, with some guidance offered on the relationship between irreducibility and cyclotomic polynomials.

Contextual Notes

There are discussions about the implications of \( p(x) \) being irreducible and the constraints that arise from the roots being powers of \( \alpha \). The conversation also touches on the nature of splitting fields and the role of Galois groups in understanding the behavior of roots.

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Homework Statement


Let p\in\mathbb{Q}[x] be an irreducible polynomial. Suppose K is an extension field of \mathbb{Q} that contains a root \alpha of p such that p(\alpha^2)=0. Prove that p splits in K[x].

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I was thinking contradiction, but if p does not split in K, the only logical conclusion I can come to is that there is an extension field L[x] such that p splits and K[x] \subseteq L[x].
 
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I have some thoughts but they are not complete. By some theorem, Q(alpha) is isomorphic to Q[x]/<p(x)>. Use this to show p(x^2)=p(x)q(x) (assume WLOG that p is monic if you want).

Now show p(alpha^4)=0. In fact, alpha^{power of 2} is a root of p. All these powers of alpha can't be distinct. Obtain that alpha is a root of unity.

Here is where my gut tells me you can conclude p is a cyclotomic polynomial, but I don't know enough about them to prove that myself.
 
Nice work, Billy Bob! You're essentially done. Since f is irreducible in \mathbb{Q}[x], f is the minimal polynomial of \alpha. However, \alpha is a root of unity, so the minimal polynomial is, by definition, some cyclotomic polynomial \Phi_k for some k. Thus, f = \Phi_k (without loss of generality, f is monic), so the roots of f are just \alpha, \alpha^2, \alpha^3, \ldots. In particular, f splits in \mathbb{Q}(\alpha)[x] \subseteq K[x].
 
I see all of it, except the logic you use to conclude that \alpha is a primitive root of unity. My thought is because p(x) is irreducible and \alpha, \alpha^2, \alpha^3, \ldots are all roots of it, then \alpha =\alpha^2 =\alpha^3 =\ldots =1 implying that \alpha is a root of unity.

Any thoughts?
 
I see all of it, except the logic you use to conclude that \alpha is a primitive root of unity.

If \alpha is a primitive sth root of unity, then \alpha = e^{2 \pi r/s} for some r. We can rewrite this as \alpha = e^{2 \pi t/n}, where \textrm{gcd}(t,n) = 1. In other words, every sth root of unity is a primitive nth root of unity for some n, so its minimal polynomial is cyclotomic.
 
An easier way to carry out Billy Bob's plan:

If E is the splitting field of p, then there is an element of Gal(E/Q) that, among other things, sends alpha to alpha^2. Where does it send alpha^2?
 
masterslave said:
I see all of it, except the logic you use to conclude that \alpha is a primitive root of unity. My thought is because p(x) is irreducible and \alpha, \alpha^2, \alpha^3, \ldots are all roots of it, then \alpha =\alpha^2 =\alpha^3 =\ldots =1 implying that \alpha is a root of unity.

Any thoughts?

\alpha, \alpha^2, \alpha^4, \alpha^8, \alpha^{16} \ldots are all roots, but maybe not \alpha^3 etc. The point is, there can't be infinitely many roots, so \alpha^i=\alpha^j for some i not equal to j. Now an example will give you an idea for how to handle the general case. If \alpha^8=\alpha^2, then \alpha^8-\alpha^2=0, then \alpha^6-1=0, so alpha is a sixth root of unity.

Thanks VKint and Hurkyl for helping me out.
 

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