Is a Solidly Grounded Transformer Used in Residential Wiring?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the concept of solidly grounded transformers, particularly in the context of residential wiring. Participants explore the definitions, implications, and technical details related to grounding methods in electrical systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion regarding the definition and application of solidly grounded transformers, specifically mentioning the wye connection and its relation to grounding.
  • There is a suggestion that the term "star point" might be relevant to the discussion, indicating a potential area of misunderstanding.
  • One participant describes solidly grounded systems as having low impedance connections to Earth, which allows fault currents to trip protective devices effectively.
  • Another participant notes that in residential settings, the neutral of a transformer is typically grounded, allowing for safe operation at 120VAC to Earth.
  • Discussion includes mention of high impedance grounded systems used in industrial contexts, where faults may not trip devices but instead trigger alarms.
  • There is a reference to specific codes and regulations that govern grounding practices in different engineering contexts, such as mining.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of neutral grounding resistance (NGR) and its role in limiting ground fault currents in certain applications.
  • A later reply reiterates that solidly connected wye configurations are suitable for residential applications due to the low voltages involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition and implications of solidly grounded transformers, with multiple viewpoints and some confusion remaining evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions and varying interpretations of grounding concepts, particularly regarding the definitions of solidly grounded and high impedance systems. The discussion also reflects a lack of clarity on specific regulatory requirements and their applicability in different contexts.

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Hello everybody,

I'm a bit confused about the concept of solidly grounded tranformers. From my understanding, the wye connection of the transformer side would be followed by a resistor of a certain magnitude.

Hopeful that my doubt would be clarified.

Thanks!
 
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It's unclear to me what you are asking. Just guessing ... perhaps the words "star point" should get a mention in your question?
 
@nascentoxygen I'm not too sure of the definition of solidly-ground earth.. please and thanks :)
 
NascentOxygen said:
It's unclear to me what you are asking. Just guessing ... perhaps the words "star point" should get a mention in your question?

im not too sure of the definition of solidly grounded transformer.. please and thanks! :)
 
Maybe you should cite the source where you saw it mentioned?
 
That term usually describes an electrical system whose connection to Earth is through a low enough impedance that a fault between an energized conductor and ground will pass enough current to trip an overcurrent protective device.
To achieve that one might connect the neutral of a three phase transformer supplying a system directly to Earth and to the building's steel.

In US homes the single phase transformer supplying the house with 240VAC has a centertap that is connected to earth. So each of the two incoming lines is 120VAC to earth. A fault on either will trip an upstream protective device.In industry it is not uncommon to connect a system to Earth through an impedance high enough that a fault to ground will not trip anything and instead provide an alarm. That allows an important process to run uninterrupted while operators isolate and fix the fault. That is called a "High impedance grounded system".

You ought to locate a copy of IEEE "Green Book", standard 142. It is a very well written treatment of the subject that is clear and easy to understand. It should be in every electrical and industrial engineers' knowledge base. Try a search on IEEE Green Book..
 
Yeah I think Jim has it right.

It's the concept of neutral grounding resistance (NGR)

Usually, as you said, you wouldn't want high resistance in the ground circuit. For power systems though, depending on where you are engineering, there might be a code or regulation against allowing a certain level of ground current to flow.

For example, for mining, no more than 25 amps is allowed to flow at voltages of 4160v (2400 single phase). If you have a wye connected transformer with grounded neutral you need to input a NGR to limit the ground fault current to 25A.

Also its required to use 'watch-dog' circuits to ensure your NGR is in the circuit

Here is some literature on the watchdog I am familiar with from a company called startco, who make protective relays as well.

http://www.littelfuse.com/~/media/f...tral_grounding_resistor_monitor_manual_r9.pdf
 
So just to reiterate - a solidly connected wye to ground would be for a residential case, where voltage are low enough that you don't want any ground impedance
 

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