Is a(x,y,z) = (2ax,2ay,2az) a Vector Space?

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the function a(x,y,z) = (2ax,2ay,2az) defines a vector space. Participants are examining the properties of vector spaces in relation to this function, particularly focusing on the axioms of addition and scalar multiplication.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants analyze the addition axioms and express uncertainty regarding scalar multiplication, questioning whether the axioms hold under the given function. Others raise concerns about the definitions of the variables involved and the validity of the problem statement itself.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made about the function and its implications for vector space properties. There is no explicit consensus, but various lines of reasoning are being examined.

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Some participants note confusion regarding the definitions of x, y, z, and a, as well as the overall setup of the problem. There are indications that the original problem statement may lack clarity or completeness.

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decide whether this is a vector space or not
a(x,y,z) = (2ax,2ay,2az)

all the addition axoims hold easily
for the scalar multiplications axioms
for some real scaral a
[tex]a(x,y,z) = (ax,ay,az) \in 2(ax,ay,az)[/tex]
[tex]a(x_{1}+x_{2},y_{1}+y_{2},z_{1}+z_{2}) = a(x_{1},y_{1},a(z_{1}) + a(x_{2},y_{2},a(z_{2}) \in (2ax,2ay,2az)[/tex] this doesn't seem to hold because it would only be possible if the wo vecotrs being added were not distinct.

[tex](a+b)(x,y,z) = (ax+bx,ay+by,az+bz) \in (2az,2ay,2az)[/tex]

[tex]a(bx,by,bz) = (ab)(x,y,z)[/tex] this would seem t ohold if b was 2... not not anytrhing else? Not sure here?

multiplcation by 1 gives us what we want. so the last axiom holds
i can post hte axioms if u want

my text says it is not a vector space because of the failure of scalara multiplication where i have stated the doubts mysefl. Are those hte valid reasons for that??
 
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stunner5000pt said:
decide whether this is a vector space or not
a(x,y,z) = (2ax,2ay,2az)


what the hell are x,y,z, or a?
 
stunner5000pt said:
decide whether this is a vector space or not
a(x,y,z) = (2ax,2ay,2az)

all the addition axoims hold easily
for the scalar multiplications axioms
for some real scaral a
[tex]a(x,y,z) = (ax,ay,az) \in 2(ax,ay,az)[/tex]
[tex]a(x_{1}+x_{2},y_{1}+y_{2},z_{1}+z_{2}) = a(x_{1},y_{1},a(z_{1}) + a(x_{2},y_{2},a(z_{2}) \in (2ax,2ay,2az)[/tex] this doesn't seem to hold because it would only be possible if the wo vecotrs being added were not distinct.

[tex](a+b)(x,y,z) = (ax+bx,ay+by,az+bz) \in (2az,2ay,2az)[/tex]

[tex]a(bx,by,bz) = (ab)(x,y,z)[/tex] this would seem t ohold if b was 2... not not anytrhing else? Not sure here?

multiplcation by 1 gives us what we want. so the last axiom holds
i can post hte axioms if u want

my text says it is not a vector space because of the failure of scalara multiplication where i have stated the doubts mysefl. Are those hte valid reasons for that??
a(x,y,z)= (2ax,2ay,2az) doesn't make sense. Are you asked to show that the set of all (x,y,z) with ordinary addition but scalar multiplication defined by a(x,y,z)= (2a,2ay,2az) is a vector space?
 
HallsofIvy said:
a(x,y,z)= (2ax,2ay,2az) doesn't make sense. Are you asked to show that the set of all (x,y,z) with ordinary addition but scalar multiplication defined by a(x,y,z)= (2a,2ay,2az) is a vector space?

that is what i am asked to prove
 
Multiplication by must send v to v, ie 1.v=v for all v in the space.
 
stunner5000pt said:
that is what i am asked to prove

I don't believe for a moment that your problem says exactly
"decide whether this is a vector space or not a(x,y,z) = (2ax,2ay,2az)"
There isn't even a set that could be a vector space there!
 

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