Is America ready for a woman president?

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The discussion centers around the question of whether America is ready for a woman president, exploring various perspectives on gender, political views, and the broader implications of electing a female leader. Participants touch on historical context, potential candidates, and societal readiness, making it a conceptual and debate-oriented conversation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express that America is ready for a woman president, but emphasize the importance of the candidate's political views and qualifications.
  • Others argue that societal readiness is contingent on the political landscape and the willingness of women to enter politics.
  • A few participants mention specific candidates, such as Hillary Clinton, and express skepticism about her electability due to perceived baggage and public dislike.
  • There are discussions about the implications of electing leaders from diverse backgrounds, including religion and ethnicity, with some suggesting that a female president might face similar challenges as other minority candidates.
  • Some participants propose that the political system favors certain types of candidates, indicating a preference for those who appeal to the center rather than extreme positions.
  • Several comments reflect a desire for a president with strong moral and ethical values, independent of party affiliation.
  • There is a recurring theme of skepticism regarding the election of an openly atheist president, with some noting existing societal biases against non-religious candidates.
  • Participants also discuss the marketing aspect of political campaigns, suggesting that presentation and public perception play significant roles in electability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that America could be ready for a woman president, but there is no consensus on the conditions necessary for this to happen, nor on which candidates would be viable. Multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of gender, political affiliation, and societal readiness.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of "readiness," the influence of political party dynamics, and the unresolved nature of societal attitudes toward female candidates and other minority groups.

Is it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 95.8%
  • No

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 1 4.2%

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Is America ready for a woman president?
 
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Sure, why not?
Still won't vote for her unless she fits my political views, but that's because I'm not sexist.
 
chayced said:
Sure, why not?
Still won't vote for her unless she fits my political views, but that's because I'm not sexist.

Ditto. Are there really any other views here on PF?
 
We almost had one so why not?
 
I'm not even ready for a woman wife. But I got one anyway.
 
I think so. The only issue would be who she is and her political views. I am fairly certain that Clinton would have lost if she had received the nomination in the last election but mainly because I think too many people really dislike her.
 
I'm convinced the US leans center-right and the most likely nominee will be a democrat so the odds of a female pres in the near future are slim. Who knows though - maybe Christie Whitman will run.

...but "ready"? Sure why not? The main reason we haven't had one is not many women choose to enter politics. Same goes for blacks for that matter.
 
jimmysnyder said:
I'm not even ready for a woman wife. But I got one anyway.
Jay Leno picked Richard Pryor as the funniest comedian ever, I nominate jimmysnyder.:biggrin:
 
Sure - why not. Probably not Hillary Clinton, though. :biggrin:
 
  • #10
Are we ready for a woman president? Are we ready for a muslim president? What about a Jewish one or a latino one? How about an ATHEIST one!? (don't hold your breath)

We'll see when a qualified and charismatic candidate steps forward. I sure didn't think we were ready for a Black one, but we have one now.
 
  • #11
Re: Clinton. A Woman, yes, but a hag is another story. Maybe she could find a place in the UN backrooms shopping her Yale stuff.
 
  • #12
LBloom said:
Are we ready for a woman president? Are we ready for a muslim president? What about a Jewish one or a latino one? How about an ATHEIST one!? (don't hold your breath)

We'll see when a qualified and charismatic candidate steps forward. I sure didn't think we were ready for a Black one, but we have one now.

While I wondered if maybe I was only wishing I never really doubted Obama would be elected. I think that Latino race politics would make a hispanic president a harder sell. Sadly I think that as far as religion goes we are much less likely to see a non judeo-christian president than anything else.
 
  • #13
We will only see Christian presidents for certain.

The Catholic barrier's been broken (Kennedy), the AA barrier's been broken, why not the glass ceiling?

Absolutely, America is ready. However, America will (hopefully) never elect Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, or Ann Coulter.

Other than that... Michelle Obama for '16, anyone?
 
  • #14
I nominate Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice, in no particular order for VP and P. Awesome ticket, IMO.
 
  • #15
Depends on if they pander to the base or if they look to the center. That's why the Republicans lost in 2008, not enough looking to the center. Well, that and Sarah Palin.
 
  • #16
Ready? Sure. Whether or not a decent female candidate will make it through the party ranks is another story. We got close with Hillary.
 
  • #17
Char. Limit said:
We will only see Christian presidents for certain.

The Catholic barrier's been broken (Kennedy), the AA barrier's been broken, why not the glass ceiling?

Absolutely, America is ready. However, America will (hopefully) never elect Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin, or Ann Coulter.

Other than that... Michelle Obama for '16, anyone?

I'd really like to see an openly atheist president in my lifetime. As it stands right now, atheists are being asked to resign, simply for being atheist. Some state constitutions still say that officeholders must believe in God, even though it's unenforceable because of the US Constitution.

http://blog.taragana.com/politics/2009/12/11/atheist-city-councilman-in-nc-challenged-by-foes-citing-outdated-clause-of-state-constitution-7105/"
 
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  • #18
No problem. Clinton was dragging around 'way too much baggage, and would have lost the election in a landslide, though. McCain/Palin would have been a disaster, I fear, but they could have beaten Clinton, no matter how good her VP pick might have been.
 
  • #19
I'd like to see a conscientious and intelligent person as president, and one who is not beholden to either D or R parties.

I want to see someone who has straightforward moral and ethical values, and who practices good stewardship, amongst other good practices.
 
  • #20
A woman candidate with Ron Paul's agenda running as an Independent, with high IQ and wisdom factor, preferably in her 40's who doesn't believe in religion or god. I'd vote for her.
 
  • #21
Astronuc said:
I'd like to see a conscientious and intelligent person as president, and one who is not beholden to either D or R parties.

I want to see someone who has straightforward moral and ethical values, and who practices good stewardship, amongst other good practices.
I agree whole-heartedly. Now how can we possibly accomplish this outside of the broken and corrupt 2-party system?
 
  • #22
Astronuc said:
I'd like to see a conscientious and intelligent person as president, and one who is not beholden to either D or R parties.

I want to see someone who has straightforward moral and ethical values, and who practices good stewardship, amongst other good practices.
I accept.
 
  • #23
Evo said:
I accept.

I'd vote for you, but you'd have to promise to stay away from your backyard canyon in wet grass conditions.
 
  • #24
rewebster said:
I'd vote for you, but you'd have to promise to stay away from your backyard canyon in wet grass conditions.

The Secret Service would fill it in, for sure.
 
  • #25
Ready for a woman president in what way? Ready for the status quo that remains regardless of what race or gender the president may be?
 
  • #26
Jack21222 said:
I'd really like to see an openly atheist president in my lifetime. As it stands right now, atheists are being asked to resign, simply for being atheist. Some state constitutions still say that officeholders must believe in God, even though it's unenforceable because of the US Constitution.

http://blog.taragana.com/politics/2009/12/11/atheist-city-councilman-in-nc-challenged-by-foes-citing-outdated-clause-of-state-constitution-7105/"

I'd love to see it happen, even though I'm a non-devout Christian. However, it won't happen.

I'd also love to see an Independent President.
 
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  • #27
The powers that be (TPTB) will use whatever taking head works. They are focused on their goals and are completely egalitarian/pragmatic as far as who they use.
 
  • #28
Now who can be sold with enough TV ads is a marketing question and I have no expertise in that area.

But remember keep it simple (i.e. "Change").

How about "Tough AND Beautiful"?
 
  • #29
Astronuc said:
I want to see someone who has straightforward moral and ethical values, and who practices good stewardship, amongst other good practices.

I agree but "money talks everyone else walks."
 
  • #30
I believe the US would have elected an American version of Margaret Thatcher 30 years ago.
 

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