Is arcsin(sin) = 1? | Understanding the Relationship between Arcsin and Sin

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the arcsine and sine functions, particularly questioning whether arcsin(sin) equals 1 and exploring the implications of taking the arcsine of both sides of an equation involving sine.

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  • Participants discuss the definition of arcsin and its relationship to the sine function, questioning the validity of assuming arcsin(sin) equals a specific value. They explore the implications of taking the arcsine of both sides of equations and the nature of solutions to the sine function.

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Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the arcsine function and its limitations, particularly regarding the multiple solutions to the sine function. There is an ongoing exploration of examples to clarify these concepts, but no consensus has been reached on the original question.

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Participants note the constraints of the arcsine function, particularly that it traditionally yields a single solution within the range of -π/2 to π/2, which is central to the discussion of its relationship with the sine function.

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arcsin(sin) = 1 right?



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Basically, I see arcsin as 1/sin

is this correct?
 
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1/sin(x) = csc(x)

arcsin is the function such that sin(arcsin(x)) = x
 
Oh I think I get it.

So, I can take the arcsine of both sides in a problem such as:

sin(2x) = (Root3 )/2

and I would get arcsin(sin(2x)) = arcsin ((root3)/2)

Which would get me to 2x = arcsin ((root3)/2)?

Correct?
 
I'm said:
Oh I think I get it.

So, I can take the arcsine of both sides in a problem such as:

sin(2x) = (Root3 )/2

and I would get arcsin(sin(2x)) = arcsin ((root3)/2)

Which would get me to 2x = arcsin ((root3)/2)?

Correct?
Yes or no, depending on what you literally mean.

The big overwhelming obstacle that you need to make sure you understand is that the equation
sin(y)=x​
has infinitely many solutions. (or zero solutions, if |x| > 1)

If I'm to define a function Arcsin(x) that gives a solution to sin(y)=x, I can only pick one of them. (The solution lying in -\pi/2 \leq y \leq \pi/2 is traditional)

So if I want all solutions to sin(y)=x, I have more work to do because Arcsin(x) gives me one of them. Fortunately, knowing one solution, it's easy to find all of the others. (If it's not obvious, study the graph of sin(y)=x for a while...)

In otherwords, Arcsin(sin(y)) is not y. It is "the number in [-\pi/2 , \pi/2] that is related to y".
 
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Yes or no, depending on what you literally mean.

The big overwhelming obstacle that you need to make sure you understand is that the equation
sin(y)=x​
has infinitely many solutions. (or zero solutions, if |x| > 1)

If I'm to define a function Arcsin(x) that gives a solution to sin(y)=x, I can only pick one of them. (The solution lying in -\pi/2 \leq y \leq \pi/2 is traditional)

So if I want all solutions to sin(y)=x, I have more work to do because Arcsin(x) gives me one of them. Fortunately, knowing one solution, it's easy to find all of the others. (If it's not obvious, study the graph of sin(y)=x for a while...)

In otherwords, Arcsin(sin(y)) is not y. It is "the number in [-\pi/2 , \pi/2] that is related to y".

I'm said:
Oh I think I get it.

So, I can take the arcsine of both sides in a problem such as:

sin(2x) = (Root3 )/2

and I would get arcsin(sin(2x)) = arcsin ((root3)/2)

Which would get me to 2x = arcsin ((root3)/2)?

Correct?

so in this case would it be arcsin(sin(60)) = Arcsin ((\sqrt{3}/2
?

Can you give me a problem that displays what you have just told me? I'd really like to see one ( as I have not been told that in my Precalculus class).

Thanks.
 
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so in this case would it be arcsin(sin(60)) = Arcsin ((\sqrt{3}/2
?

Can you give me a problem that displays what you have just told me? I'd really like to see one ( as I have not been told that in my Precalculus class).

Thanks.

\sin{0}=\sin{\pi}=0 but \pi \not= 0. A function can only map one output to a given input, so we have to specify which solution we want when we say Arcsin(0). The solutions which are typically used are the ones between -\pi/2 and \pi/2
 
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