News Is Berkeley's Cellphone Law Addressing the Right Issues?

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The discussion revolves around Berkeley's "cellphone right to know" law, which has sparked mixed reactions. Some participants criticize the law as a distraction from more pressing issues, such as the dangers of texting and driving. Others mock the law, suggesting it caters to a niche group while ignoring more significant public safety concerns. There are references to other regulations in Berkeley, including those concerning radioactive materials, highlighting a perception of excessive regulation. The conversation also touches on public perception of risks, comparing the fear surrounding cellphones to the indifference toward radon gas, which poses a significant health risk but lacks a clear antagonist. This leads to a broader commentary on how conspiracy theories thrive on perceived cover-ups, suggesting that the allure of uncovering hidden dangers drives public interest in cellphone safety. Overall, the thread critiques the effectiveness and priorities of local legislation while exploring societal attitudes toward risk and regulation.
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Look, phone! Must draft law. Better now.
 
It's also illegal to bring radioactive material into Berkeley. Even one disintigration. Oh, and tritium exit signs are mandated.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
It's also illegal to bring radioactive material into Berkeley. Even one disintigration. Oh, and tritium exit signs are mandated.
Problem solved, then - no computing device, phone included, must be allowed in the area.
 
I guess one more won't matter, California is swamped in a sea of junk generic warning signs to fend off attacking lawyers.
http://www.wlf.org/upload/07-27-07halko.pdf

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Oh my, this sounds really dangerous - they should close off that place to children at least.
 
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russ_watters said:
Warning: Viewing this post will result in radiation exposure.

Just typing that message in California causes exposure.
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Vanadium 50 said:
It's also illegal to bring radioactive material into Berkeley. Even one disintigration. Oh, and tritium exit signs are mandated.
Off with their heads.

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Annex One... It is almost identical to Earth, except that there is no night--sunlight is constant.
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That picture is so disturbing.
 
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I found this old paper online last night:

https://www.aarst.org/proceedings/1990/1990_09_Startling_Radon_Risk_Comparisons.pdf

The point of it was to compare the dangers of radon gas to other dangers in a way that would get people's attention so they would radon-proof their homes. As it says, people are scared of nuclear power plants, but apathetic about radon. The author is not sure why, but wanted to put some ideas out about how to make people more frightened of radon, simply because the evidence is that it kills thousands a year.

I think what's going on is that conspiracy theorists thrive on denial of the conspiracy by "authorities" and they lose interest when the announcement of danger is forthright and insistent. The thrill, for them, is in uncovering secrets someone is trying hard to hide. They don't get worked up about the dangers of radon because no one is trying to hide them, but the whole cell phone denial of danger has that sweet smell of "cover-up" that is so alluring.
 
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zoobyshoe said:
I found this old paper online last night:

https://www.aarst.org/proceedings/1990/1990_09_Startling_Radon_Risk_Comparisons.pdf

The point of it was to compare the dangers of radon gas to other dangers in a way that would get people's attention so they would radon-proof their homes. As it says, people are scared of nuclear power plants, but apathetic about radon. The author is not sure why, but wanted to put some ideas out about how to make people more frightened of radon, simply because the evidence is that it kills thousands a year.

I think what's going on is that conspiracy theorists thrive on denial of the conspiracy by "authorities" and they lose interest when the announcement of danger is forthright and insistent. The thrill, for them, is in uncovering secrets someone is trying hard to hide. They don't get worked up about the dangers of radon because no one is trying to hide them, but the whole cell phone denial of danger has that sweet smell of "cover-up" that is so alluring.
I think it is simpler than that: with radon, there is no one to blame, so no one to benefit from covering-up the danger. That explains the lack of conspiracy theory.

The "why people don't care" issue is broader and while it is probably partly the above, it is also likely just the fact that radon is a silent/latent danger.
 
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I'm inclined toward Don Quixote syndrome as a motivation: nobly saving the world against the powers that be (ego gratification). If there are no windmills to conjure as dragons to slay (faux evil products), no ego gratification. Without dragons the Don might be forced to confront an absence of productive activity, i.e. actually designing or building phones, businesses, and, well, we can't have that. Unfortunately Berkeley has turned the tale on its head, embraced the crazy and put the Don in charge of the kingdom.
 
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You are being unfair to the Ingenious Gentleman here, his quest may have been fanciful but it was nobly inspired : )
 
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Aye
 

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