Is Corruption an Inherent Part of Human Nature?

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The discussion centers on the idea that significant others and close friends can lead individuals toward corruption by encouraging illegal or unethical behavior. Participants express that corruption is an inherent part of human nature, suggesting that people often prioritize self-interest over the collective good, which contributes to societal issues like crime and conflict. The conversation touches on the notion that this tendency to bend rules for loved ones is a survival instinct, although some participants find the original argument unclear or convoluted. There are also humorous asides and references to cultural examples, such as movies, to illustrate points about relationships and corruption. Overall, the thread reflects a mix of serious contemplation on human behavior and lighthearted banter.
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It seems that a significant other is a large potential for corruption. i.e helping you do or get things that someone else will not do due to being illegal. This is most clear when they have a job but break the rules of conduct to help you achieve something. Being friends with someone has a lesser but similar effect. Hence we will never escape corruption. Corruption is to be human.
 
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I'm so glad you cleared that up.
 
What, where , when, i tells you officer twas the other what done it.
Now i feel guilty, i can not even remember where all these pens came from.
 
I had a Jerry Maguire moment recently myself. But because of the stares it generated, I'm afraid to share it again.
 
Sometimes, at night, when no one is listening I eat spaghetti.
 
tgt said:
It seems that a significant other is a large potential for corruption. i.e helping you do or get things that someone else will not do due to being illegal. This is most clear when they have a job but break the rules of conduct to help you achieve something. Being friends with someone has a lesser but similar effect. Hence we will never escape corruption. Corruption is to be human.

This is true if we assume that human's aren't smart and which is true.
Corruption elimination benefits all humans in long run but majority considers only self interests: which causes wars, crime, corruption ... overall loss to all humans.
So, we aren't smart. We are so lost in our own-selves; we develop sense of possessions over other things etc, and there is no solution!

You can even get many examples from this forum indicating "I shouldn't be hurted and I don't care about others" concept.
 
tgt said:
It seems that a significant other is a large potential for corruption. i.e helping you do or get things that someone else will not do due to being illegal. This is most clear when they have a job but break the rules of conduct to help you achieve something. Being friends with someone has a lesser but similar effect. Hence we will never escape corruption. Corruption is to be human.

Lay off the mushrooms.
 
If you have corruption in your roots, maybe you should find a different hairdresser. :rolleyes: I have no idea what the OP is babbling about.
 
I thought this was about Adam and Eve. :confused:
 
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Perhaps the op was suggesting that corruption is an extension of our survival instinct.
 
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Math Is Hard said:
I thought this was about Adam and Eve. :confused:


I think it is. When I was a kid in Sunday school I was told we are all born sinners. :cool:
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Perhaps the op was suggesting that corruption is an extension of our survival instinct.

Correct or it could be a part of our survival instinct.
 
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Math Is Hard said:
I thought this was about Adam and Eve. :confused:

Wasn't on my mind.
 
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Moonbear said:
I have no idea what the OP is babbling about.

It isn't clear enough?

Maybe the last two sentences isn't but the others are self explanatory.
 
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tgt said:
It isn't clear enough?

Maybe the last two sentences isn't but the others are self explanatory.

Nope. None of it makes any sense. Look at the responses you go here...it's pretty clear nobody else is sure either.
 
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I thought I knew what he's talking about.
I must also be babbling then ..
 
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rootX said:
I thought I knew what he's talking about.
I must also be babbling then ..

Maybe it's because you're the source of corruption. :rolleyes:
 
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"It seems that a significant other is a large potential for corruption."

http://www.courtauld.ac.uk/GALLERY/exhibitions/2007/cranach/adam-eve5.jpg

"i.e helping you do or get things that someone else will not do due to being illegal."


I dunno. I think it kinda works.
 
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If your significant other is asking you to do illegal things, you need to find another other! :bugeye:
 
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tgt said:
It seems that a significant other is a large potential for corruption. i.e helping you do or get things that someone else will not do due to being illegal. This is most clear when they have a job but break the rules of conduct to help you achieve something. Being friends with someone has a lesser but similar effect. Hence we will never escape corruption. Corruption is to be human.

Lesseehere...

Because you have a close friend, that friend has some inclination to support your decision to do something, even if it is wrong or illegal. A mere friend is less likely to go that far. This is your idea of corruption, and as such, it is inherent in our nature.

Uh huh.

Okay. We all have some willingness to break rules. I jaywalk once in a while. I equate that to a fair ride. It's a little bit fun. So will just about everyone else break rules to some extent. -Well, maybe not exactly what I do. I think you're describing an under-the-cover negotiation. We want or need something, but the stinkin rules are in our way. Ah hah! We have a friend who is willing to take some risk with us and help us out! I'll remember this and return the favor some day. And wouldn't you know, this is one measure of friendship. So, maybe it's also a way of gauging loyalties and trust.
 
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Moonbear said:
If your significant other is asking you to do illegal things, you need to find another other! :bugeye:

Because Nelson Mandela did it?

Did Gandhi also broke some laws but for sure he was a trouble :rolleyes:

[Only illegal things, I don't think we would call them corrupt .. or maybe they were]
 
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Math Is Hard said:
"It seems that a significant other is a large potential for corruption."

http://www.courtauld.ac.uk/GALLERY/exhibitions/2007/cranach/adam-eve5.jpg

"i.e helping you do or get things that someone else will not do due to being illegal."


I dunno. I think it kinda works.

Ah yes the fig leaf syndrome.:biggrin:
 
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Moonbear said:
If your significant other is asking you to do illegal things, you need to find another other! :bugeye:

I was only referring to them doing illegal things for you.

I remember there was a movie about a female police officer falling in love with a male prisoner and ended up helping him escape prison. What was the movie called?
 
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tgt said:
I was only referring to them doing illegal things for you.
How is that different?

I remember there was a movie about a female police officer falling in love with a male prisoner and ended up helping him escape prison. What was the movie called?

You do realize that movies are FICTION, right? That means they are made up for the sake of entertainment, not because they are true or reflect reality. Someone who starts dating a prisoner already has a screw loose.
 
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I thought money was the root of all evil. Now, I read it's significant others (In my case a woman). :rolleyes: Of course it could be true:

Mathematic proof that Women are evil

first, we state that women require time and money:

Women = time * money

...and as we all know, "time is money":

Time = Money

...and therefore:

Women = Money * Money = (Money)^2

...and because "Money is the root of all evil":

Money = sqrt(evil)

...therefore:

Women = (sqrt[evil])^2

...and we are forced to conclude that:

Women = Evil
 
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Hey, the math is right. wow. It really is true.
 
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tribdog said:
Hey, the math is right. wow. It really is true.
Yup. Math don't lie.
 
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