Is Energy Required to Ride a Bicycle the Same for Every Rider?

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The discussion revolves around whether the energy required to pedal a bicycle from point A to B is the same for every rider, given that certain conditions such as weight, rolling resistance, and wind resistance are equal. The inquiry explores the implications of rider condition, gear ratios, and time taken on energy expenditure.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that if air resistance and friction are neglected, the energy required depends solely on distance and height difference.
  • Others argue that air resistance increases significantly with speed, indicating that riding faster requires more energy due to increased drag force.
  • One participant notes that the number of Calories consumed is influenced by the rider's health and muscle condition, implying variability in energy expenditure among different riders.
  • A later reply asserts that if all conditions are equal, the same amount of energy is needed at the pedals, but questions whether all riders produce work with the same efficiency.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the energy required is the same for all riders under equal conditions, particularly regarding the influence of rider efficiency and health on energy expenditure.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of assumptions regarding air resistance, rolling resistance, and rider efficiency, which may affect the overall energy calculations.

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This is my first and probably only question on here.

Is it true that the same amount of energy is required to pedal a bicycle from point A to B, no matter the condition of the rider, or the gear ratios used, or the time it takes, as long as every thing else is equal? Weight, rolling resistance, wind resistance, etc., all equal. If not, a simple as possible explanation as to why not would be appreciated.
 
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Neglecting air resistance and friction then it would only depend on the distance (and height difference)
However air resistance rises quickly with speed, doubling the speed gives 4x the drag force and so riding faster definitely takes more energy. Rolling resistance and friction are less dependent on speed
 
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Also, if you are interested in the amount of Calories consumed, this is dependent upon the health of the person and the condition of their muscles.
 
cyclebum said:
This is my first and probably only question on here.

Is it true that the same amount of energy is required to pedal a bicycle from point A to B, no matter the condition of the rider, or the gear ratios used, or the time it takes, as long as every thing else is equal? Weight, rolling resistance, wind resistance, etc., all equal. If not, a simple as possible explanation as to why not would be appreciated.

Yes it's true the same amount of energy is needed. You said weight is the same so let's say the cross section is the same. Rolling resistance the same I.E. same bike. Wind resistance the same I.E. same velocity. So yes the same energy needs to be applied at the pedals. The condition of the rider? Does everybody produce work with the same efficiency and have to consume the exact same amount of fuel/food? I think that is your question. I would guess that answer is no.
 

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