Is Fox News Truly Fair and Balanced?

[Ivan Seeking]

If the issue is one of degree of effect, then I don't rate Fox cable that high. The cable end (Oreilly, etc) by definition reaches far fewer people that the broadcast networks NBC, CBS, ABC, and radio's NPR.

No that wasn't the point. The point was that your comparison of Stewart to Fox is bogus.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Not to mention that

NEW YORK (AP) — CNN is poised to finish March third in the prime-time weeknight ratings behind Fox News Channel and MSNBC, the first time this has ever happened for the channel that pioneered the cable news genre nearly three decades ago.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jeEr_9iwtdieF9FQS0td-iGANTgQD976K4IG2

Clearly Fox Noise does reach a wide audience.

Between Fox and hate radio, is it any wonder that we're in the mess we're in now?

 

[Werg22]

Kinda like yelling at your guests and turning their mics off.

Sometimes, I think it's staged. It has to be.

 

[Woody101]

Not to mention that


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jeEr_9iwtdieF9FQS0td-iGANTgQD976K4IG2

Clearly Fox Noise does reach a wide audience.

Between Fox and hate radio, is it any wonder that we're in the mess we're in now?

You have got to be kidding. Fox News caused the housing and banking crisis, is that what you want me to believe?

 

[Danger]

They sure as hell didn't help. I'd say that by supporting that moron Bush, they did indeed contribute to the current situation.

 

[Woody101]

They sure as hell didn't help. I'd say that by supporting that moron Bush, they did indeed contribute to the current situation.

Perhaps you are unaware of what party has had control of the House and Senate for the last few years. Perhaps you are unaware of the fact that the Bush Administration warned several years ago that Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae needed closer regulation and scrutiny but those warnings went unheeded by the legislature but the head of the banking subcomittee spoke to how great both organizations were and how well they were running. Perhaps you are unaware that Senator Dodd got a huge contribution from AIG. It is about time the liberal side of the aisle stepped up and took some of the responsibility for the chaos they helped to create. This whole mess is not entirely their fault but they sure as hell had a hand in it.

 

[Skyhunter]

Perhaps you are unaware of what party has had control of the House and Senate for the last few years. Perhaps you are unaware of the fact that the Bush Administration warned several years ago that Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae needed closer regulation and scrutiny but those warnings went unheeded by the legislature but the head of the banking subcomittee spoke to how great both organizations were and how well they were running. Perhaps you are unaware that Senator Dodd got a huge contribution from AIG. It is about time the liberal side of the aisle stepped up and took some of the responsibility for the chaos they helped to create. This whole mess is not entirely their fault but they sure as hell had a hand in it.

Perhaps you are unaware that it was the 108th and 109th Congress (both Republican controlled) that failed to enact legislation for oversight over the GSE's. The 110th Congress under Democratic control passed legislation in July 2008.

Perhaps you are unaware that Obama and McCain also received large campaign contributions from AIG.

And did you know that Dodd is giving his back?

I agree there is plenty of blame to go around. But let us keep it in perspective.

 

[mheslep]

No that wasn't the point. The point was that your comparison of Stewart to Fox is bogus.

<sigh> I did not mention Fox in my Stewart post.

 

[mheslep]

Not to mention that


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jeEr_9iwtdieF9FQS0td-iGANTgQD976K4IG2

Clearly Fox Noise does reach a wide audience.

Between Fox and hate radio, is it any wonder that we're in the mess we're in now?

Broadcast. Broadcast. Broadcast, not cable. That is where the numbers lie.

 

[edward]

Fox employs a technique known as neural linguistic programming. You are the one who becomes programmed.

It involves Interrupting a person at key points, inserting the newscasters own view using verbal and hand motions at key points and sometimes in a nearly imperceptible manner.

They break down the credibility of the person being interviewed in the same way.

Watch them do an interview with someone who has an opposing viewpoint. You will see it once you know it is there. It may take a few tries and then it jumps out as being very apparent.

 

[kyleb]

Sometimes, I think it's staged. It has to be.

Some is, but most is just self perpetuated mass delusion.

<sigh> I did not mention Fox in my Stewart post.

He was referring to https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=2135598&highlight=stewart#post2135598", in the context of the conversation.

 

[LowlyPion]

Now comes Fox Nation:

"It's Time to Say NO to Biased Media and Say YES to Fair Play and Free Speech."

Their motto?

I'm thinking if people actually do that, what audience will Fox have left?

Interesting article about the network and its bias and the business niche their launch is attempting to profit from.:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../AR2009032902102.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

 

[Woody101]

Now comes Fox Nation:
Their motto?

I'm thinking if people actually do that, what audience will Fox have left?

Interesting article about the network and its bias and the business niche their launch is attempting to profit from.:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../AR2009032902102.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns

Perhaps you should read Bill O'Riely's column in todays paper, it might give you a different perspective on him.

 

[LowlyPion]

Perhaps you should read Bill O'Riely's column in todays paper, it might give you a different perspective on him.

Have him send it to me then.

Until then I'll continue to think he is a self absorbed, ill tempered bully that can't take a punch.

 

[Woody101]

LowlyPion: I am sure with a few clicks of the mouse you could find it online if you were really interested. Obviously you don't want to make any effort because what he says might run contrary to your bias.

 

[Cyrus]

LowlyPion: I am sure with a few clicks of the mouse you could find it online if you were really interested. Obviously you don't want to make any effort because what he says might run contrary to your bias.

You could just provided the link since your the one who brought it up...

 

[LowlyPion]

LowlyPion: I am sure with a few clicks of the mouse you could find it online if you were really interested. Obviously you don't want to make any effort because what he says might run contrary to your bias.

If you're saying that I couldn't be interested in what he has to say, you would be on to something. Why would I want to paw through his rubbish to find the pearl that apparently found resonance with you as to the kick-off of Fox Nation?

 

[Skyhunter]

I must agree with LowlyPion here.

O'Reily has never had anything insightful or meaningful to say in the past, therefore why should we waste our time digging through his bloviations to perhaps find the elusive pearl of wisdom that may or may not even exist?

 

[seycyrus]

Away for the weekend. I finally got the time to rush back here, worried that I had missed some first hand documentation about the objectivity of new sources.

Wrong again.

Just clap trap from people who are linking to cheryypicked segmenst. As usual...

Does anyone have any integrity?

Name the day, time and channel. Let's watch it and take notes. We can then compare.

 

[seycyrus]

I must agree with LowlyPion here.

O'Reily has never had anything insightful or meaningful to say in the past, therefore why should we waste our time digging through his bloviations to perhaps find the elusive pearl of wisdom that may or may not even exist?

Yeah let's keep up the attempts to pass off opinion as fact. Keep repeating yourselves.

Name the time coordinates and the channel.

 

[Skyhunter]

So O'Riely's insistence that the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre" was Americans killing German POW's, and not the other way around is an opinion you share?

What other opinions of his do you share that are completely false?

If you have such a strong bias that even defaming the 90 American WWII soldiers massacred at Malmedy does not sway your opinion then I don't believe there is any reality that will alter such a biased perspective.

And FYI I don't watch television. I don't even own one.

 

[seycyrus]

So O'Riely's insistence that the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre" was Americans killing German POW's, and not the other way around is an opinion you share?

This is an example of a deceptive tactic being used by some. O'reiley was either misunderstood, incorrect or some combination of the two. It has been debated both ways. ie. The whole transcript thing.

But who cares? Are you implying that O'reiley holds the position that Americans commited mass atrocities against Germans? Are you trying to make the case that O'reiley does not support U.S. troops? What exactly is your claim?

Do you claim that if you asked O'reiley point blank about the facts of Malmedy, he would choose the incorrect one?

Or are you claiming that O'reiley was wrong? If so, Big whoop!

You are using anecdotal evidence on a small case to make a larger charge.

What other opinions of his do you share that are completely false?

Please stop with the Fallacies. It is obvious that I do not share any false opinions! I only share factual ones!

And FYI I don't watch television. I don't even own one.

You admit that your entire opinion is based on a preselected data set! AMAZING!

'Nuff Said!

 

[Cyrus]

seycyrus, seriously. The way you try to justify this guy is mind boggling. What reason do you have to prop this bozo up? Do you own stocks with Fox News or something?

Name the time coordinates and the channel.

Man, you hard core television watcher you. How is anyone to take you seriously if you post like this.

 

[seycyrus]

seycyrus, seriously. The way you try to justify this guy is mind boggling. What reason do you have to prop this bozo up? Do you own stocks with Fox News or something?

How is it that an insistence that people make judgements based on their own experience instead of on preselected tidbits, propping him up?

Man, you hard core television watcher you. How is anyone to take you seriously if you post like this.

No hard core watching necessary. That is *if* we agree on a time and a channel and then compare notes.

What exactly is your intellectual objection? It's not as if I am suggesting that we *just* watch FN. I have repeatedly voiced my opinion that it would be illustrative to watch an hour of each to come to a conclusion. The note comparing would at least minimize the chance of deceptive on either parties part, and would enable disussion.

 

[Evo]

Time to put this thread out of it's misery.