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News 9/12 Grassroots movement or Fox News movement?

  1. Sep 12, 2009 #1


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  3. Sep 12, 2009 #2


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    Well, today is 9/12, but in any case, what does it matter who the leader of the project/movement is?

    Also, you aren't confusing this with the marches going on in Washington today, are you?

    That's apparently led by Dick Armey:
    That's from the USA Today aricle. Here's the website of the organization: http://www.freedomworks.org/
  4. Sep 14, 2009 #3
    It'a a mixture of alot of things really.
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  6. Sep 15, 2009 #5
    NBC doesn't seem to agree.
  7. Sep 15, 2009 #6


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    Even Fox news reported that the crowd numbered in the "tens of thousands" which agrees with the estimates made by the DC Fire-Department who would have been responsible for public safety and first-responder planning had the crowds been larger. When Fox refuses to up the ante over "tens of thousands" despite their tendency to inflate right-wing events, it's a good time to take a breath. Officials in DC said that the mall was well-occupied from the Capitol to 3rd street, which is a far cry from the crowd that attended Promise-Keepers and filled the mall back to 17th street and spilled over into the area around the Washington Monument.

    If you want to trust news-outlets and spokespersons instead of public-safety officials who actually do this stuff for a living, .... fine.
  8. Sep 15, 2009 #7
    I don't know how many people were there. I just thought it interesting that NBC reported hundreds of thousands.

    This is a possible explanation for the Park Police estimate.


    Chronicling the high cost of our legal system
    D.C. park police crowd estimates

    by Walter Olson on September 13, 2009

    The hot blog topic of the moment is over the size of the crowds at yesterday’s “9/12″ Washington rallies critical of the Obama administration’s direction. As we noted back in 2004, U.S. National Park police, who are in charge of the Mall and related public spaces, used to estimate crowd sizes, but when their assessment of attendance at the Million Man March differed from that of march organizers, the organizers threatened to sue. So park police stopped putting out crowd estimates, which now seem to be left to the probably less expert D.C. fire department. Don’t we all feel better informed now?"

    I lived in D.C. and have been in large crowds around the monument. I remember a 4th of July concert featuring the Beach Boys (with Ringo on drums), the Grass Roots, and a young Janet Jackson that had a million people and there was plenty of room to spare.

    This looked like a fairly large crowd to me - nothing else.
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