Is it difficult for a successful man to date a top physics student?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges and dynamics of dating women in top physics programs, particularly from the perspective of men who may not be in the same academic field. The original poster questions whether a man with significant income potential but lacking a strong academic background in physics could successfully date a woman who is academically superior, especially if she is not conventionally attractive. Participants note that many women in physics may prefer to date non-physicists, seeking relationships where they are seen as equals rather than being objectified. There is a consensus that women in demanding academic fields often face pressure to be recognized for their intellect rather than their appearance, which complicates dating dynamics. The conversation touches on the idea that successful women may not prioritize financial status alone in a partner, emphasizing the importance of intellectual compatibility and shared interests.Several contributors share personal experiences and observations, highlighting the difficulty of forming romantic relationships in male-dominated environments. The discussion also raises questions about societal expectations and the balance between professional ambitions and personal relationships.
  • #31
zoobyshoe said:
Anon2000 is just trying to figure out if he's got a chance with a girl into physics that he's attracted to. Nothing wrong with research.
the truth is that i got shut down by a physics girl. although she is smarter than me, she is even hotter than smarter. now i notice that i don't have it easy in the world. girls reject me. it's also not easy for me to get a really successful career. that's why i hope if i have a kid some day, he'll be at the least as smart as me, but preferably smarter. so i would now settle for an average-looking physics or math girl. I'm not really into chemistry any more.
 
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  • #32
anon2000 said:
the truth is that i got shut down by a physics girl. although she is smarter than me, she is even hotter than smarter. now i notice that i don't have it easy in the world. girls reject me. it's also not easy for me to get a really successful career. that's why i hope if i have a kid some day, he'll be at the least as smart as me, but preferably smarter. so i would now settle for an average-looking physics or math girl. I'm not really into chemistry any more.
How old are you?
 
  • #33
zoobyshoe said:
How old are you?
it's irrelevant to my theoretical question/poll. but i am over 21.
 
  • #34
so you're just wanting to get married eh? is that why you came here? just to ask this question or potentially find women? don't you want to fall in love?

at any rate, if you're looking for more of a business-like marriage where she gives you intelligent offspring and you give her money and financial support, i suppose you have to not only find a physics girl, but one who also isn't looking to fall in love. that's probably going to be trickier. even if a girl studies physics and dates outside the field, she's still looking for a meaningful relationship, she just thinks her chances are better if she plays the field.

so where are you getting this money from? and why can't you get a successful career?
 
  • #35
yes, i came here to ask a hypothetical question. i am not looking to find women online, i wouldn't even have time presently to date a woman. i think "love" is not something that can be "observed and measured". but i admit it is not normal that a man is not looking for women whom he would find attractive(though i wouldn't refuse a smart+attractive woman), i guess it's called settling down.
i did not say that i had money or i couldn't get a successful career, though it is not easy for me. but some careers bring a lot more money than physics even if they require less intelligence(surgeon, trader,etc), and IQ is genetic. It is easier to get A's and to do well on standardized tests if you have a higher IQ.

Gale said:
so you're just wanting to get married eh? is that why you came here? just to ask this question or potentially find women? don't you want to fall in love?

at any rate, if you're looking for more of a business-like marriage where she gives you intelligent offspring and you give her money and financial support, i suppose you have to not only find a physics girl, but one who also isn't looking to fall in love. that's probably going to be trickier. even if a girl studies physics and dates outside the field, she's still looking for a meaningful relationship, she just thinks her chances are better if she plays the field.

so where are you getting this money from? and why can't you get a successful career?
 
  • #36
anon,
If you're really looking for an egg donor, you can use your money to buy some eggs, pay a surrogate mother, and hire a nanny. The woman that you're looking for might want to know -- and I think it's only fair that you tell her -- whether you want to be her boyfriend/husband or her employer. It sounds like you're saying that, for the sake of your potential children, you're willing to give up being with someone who makes you happy. Is that right? I think that plan will fail insofar as having parents with that kind of a relationship is harmful to children.
I guess you're trying to make the best of what you think is a bad situation, but maybe the situation isn't as bad as you think. Have you really give up on finding someone who makes you happy? :frown:
 
  • #37
I forget where I read this (or even if it was a credible source), but I heard that offspring tend to fall towards the mean on the IQ scale (Ie, back to 100 if the parents are >100, or towards 100 if <100). So if your parents are intelligent, that does not mean that you'll be intelligent.

Also, if you don't love the woman you have a child with, and something goes wrong, what then? Would you take care of a child with a handicap, or just walk out and leave him or her because you have no emotion invested in the relationship?
 
  • #38
i think most women could make a man relatively happy if he makes a decent effort. female anatomy is the same across the board, so it's not like sex would be much different. of course going out with a hideous woman is depressing, but hopefully when I'm 30+, i'll be mature enough to live with that. most people aren't 10's, yet they get married.
no way, IQ is genetic.
 
  • #39
I'm a physics girl!:rolleyes:
And I don't think all people who study sciences are smarter than other!(am I enough for provng your theory wrong? :biggrin:)
 
  • #40
Lisa! said:
I'm a physics girl!:rolleyes:
And I don't think all people who study sciences are smarter than other!(am I enough for provng your theory wrong? :biggrin:)
if you get into a top physics or math ph.d program, then you're at the least smarter than me.
 
  • #41
Nope, I don't want to get into it although I don't think it would be difficult for me!
Anyway I just wanted to tell you that it's not only science people who're smart! I've not read all replies of this thread but I think you want to marry a smart girl so that your children would be smarter than you, eh?
 
  • #42
I am friends with three couples who each have a toddler. In each couple, both mom and dad are highly intelligent and work in technical or scientific professions. Two couples have an autistic child and the third has a child who is developmentally delayed. With kids, you get what you get, and you love them no matter what.
 
  • #43
i'll just get me any top physics ph.d. girl before I'm 30. i just hope they're not all stuck up.
 
  • #44
Lisa! said:
I'm a physics girl!:rolleyes:
And I don't think all people who study sciences are smarter than other!(am I enough for provng your theory wrong? :biggrin:)

:smile: Took you long to reply to this thread :biggrin: .

Anon, why only physics and math girls ? I personally know 5 or 6 mol. biology girls who are much smarter than any physics girl I know (and math for that matter). But maybe its just a coincidence ...
 
  • #45
Igor_S said:
:smile: Took you long to reply to this thread :biggrin: .

Anon, why only physics and math girls ? I personally know 5 or 6 mol. biology girls who are much smarter than any physics girl I know (and math for that matter). But maybe its just a coincidence ...

Igor, because you can be sure that someone who gets into harvard physics program is really smart. But anybody can do biology... Of course if you're looking for generally prestigious women, you can try www.thesquare.com but i looked at some of their profiles and it seems that most of them are stuck up but don't have much to show for it. thankfully there arent any physics girls on there. I personally consider my best strategy is to secure a successful career, and then I would start attending gradschool physics seminars where i could try to flirt with physics girls in the audience. Hopefully 10 will shut me down, but 1 will appreciate my effort.
 
  • #46
anon2000 said:
i'll just get me any top physics ph.d. girl before I'm 30. i just hope they're not all stuck up.
Why, was your mother a physicist?
 
  • #47
Igor_S said:
:smile: Took you long to reply to this thread :biggrin: .
Yeah, recently I just don't feel like replying to any thread especially this kind! :frown:
 
  • #48
I must say, if you only have interest in credentials, and not the women themselves, then no good can come of it. :-p
 
  • #49
A smart woman would simply realize that you want her only because of her genes and well I don't think she would stand this situation!:-p
 
  • #50
If you have some money and want to trade that for genes, then put an ad in the newspaper at Princeton and offer to pay a PhD stundent one year's tuition per egg. Your other plan sounds half-baked (at best).
 
  • #51
Aether said:
If you have some money and want to trade that for genes, then put an ad in the newspaper at Princeton and offer to pay a PhD stundent one year's tuition per egg. Your other plan sounds half-baked (at best).

Yeah, I mean what would you say at a physics gradschool seminar... ? Maybe something like "... I agree it could be possible for gravity to be responsible for collapses of the quantum-mechanical states of the system... by the way, you smell lovely today, want to have a drink afterwards ?" :biggrin: .
 
  • #52
"... I agree it could be possible for gravity to be responsible for collapses of the quantum-mechanical states of the system... by the way, you smell lovely today, want to have a drink afterwards ?"
Of course, this is a terrific setup for all sorts of rejection lines!
 

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