Is it possible, that one physics law is "Everything is in motion?"

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The discussion centers around the proposition that a fundamental physics law could be "Everything is in motion," exploring the implications of this idea, particularly in relation to black holes and the concept of zero in nature.

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  • Some participants propose that everything is indeed in motion, questioning the necessity of a formal law to state this.
  • Others argue that zero is a valid concept in nature, countering the claim that it does not belong to nature.
  • A participant mentions that black holes move, citing observational evidence of black holes colliding and galaxies interacting.
  • There are claims that the discussion around zero and its existence is convoluted, with some participants expressing frustration over the clarity of arguments presented.
  • One participant suggests that if everything is in motion, then everything must be subject to forces, although this is met with criticism regarding the understanding of basic physics principles.

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Participants do not reach consensus on the existence and role of zero in nature, nor on the implications of everything being in motion. Multiple competing views remain regarding these concepts.

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Some statements reflect confusion over the definitions and implications of zero, as well as the basic principles of motion and force in physics, indicating a need for clearer foundational understanding.

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everything in motion
Is it possible, that one physics law is "Everything is in motion?" (since zero doesnt belong to nature)...if so, does that implies that black holes move?
 
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"zero" belongs in nature as much as any other number.

And, black holes certainly move : as well as evidence of galaxies (which commonly have huge BH's at their center) passing through each other, we've real-time observed black holes colliding.
 
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andrecoelho said:
TL;DR Summary: everything in motion

Is it possible, that one physics law is "Everything is in motion?" (since zero doesnt belong to nature)...if so, does that implies that black holes move?
Everything IS in motion. All motion is relative and everything is in motion relative to SOMETHING, but we hardly need a "law" to say that.

Also, what on Earth could you possibly mean by "zero doesn't belong to nature" ??? I am currently holding zero apples in my left hand.
 
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you can't it doesnt exists...you arne't holding anything...for example, for apples or roses..zero of those two are equal...also because of infinity might be zero..for example the creation of the university
 
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you can't it doesnt exists...you arne't holding anything...for example, for apples or roses..zero of those two are equal...also because of infinity might be zero..for example the creation of the university
This is just word salad as far as I can tell. Or, put another way:
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andrecoelho said:
you can't it doesnt exists...
True, in the limited sense of the natural numbers, which you did not specify in your original post, which had to do with motion, which measurement rarely approximates a natural number.
 
hmmm27 said:
True, in the limited sense of the natural numbers, which you did not specity in your original post.
ooops forgot :)
 
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you can't it doesnt exists...you arne't holding anything...for example, for apples or roses..zero of those two are equal...also because of infinity might be zero..for example the creation of the university
You need to learn some physics. This is just rambling, ungrammatical nonsense.

Zero is an eigenvalue of the quantum angular momentum operator, hence a valid measurement of angular momentum. Zero does, therefore, exist in nature - in this and many other contexts.
 
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You need to learn some physics. This is just rambling, ungrammatical nonsense.

Zero is an eigenvalue of the quantum angular momentum operator, hence a valid measurement of angular momentum. Zero does, therefore, exist in nature - in this and many other contexts.
Ok.... but since everything moves, (i checked wikipedia), then everything is subject to a force , and applying a force?
thanks....
 
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Ok.... but since everything moves, (i checked wikipedia), then everything is subject to a force , and applying a force?
thanks....
GADS! NO! You really need to learn some VERY basic physics. Maybe start with Newton's Laws at least.
 
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... because of infinity might be zero..for example the creation of the university
I know our academic institutions have come under fire, but ...
 
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andrecoelho said:
you can't it doesnt exists...you arne't holding anything...for example, for apples or roses..zero of those two are equal...also because of infinity might be zero..for example the creation of the university
PF Medic here, stopping the bleeding. Thanks all for trying to help the newbie.
 
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