Is L'Hopital's Rule Applicable to Natural Log Limits?

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The discussion revolves around the limit problem involving the expression \(\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} \frac{(\ln (x))^n}{x}\), where \(n\) is a positive integer. Participants are exploring the applicability of L'Hopital's Rule to this limit, particularly in the context of indeterminate forms.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply L'Hopital's Rule to the limit, noting the indeterminate form \(\frac{\infty}{\infty}\) and questioning whether repeated application leads to a definitive conclusion. Some participants discuss the derivatives involved and the behavior of the numerator and denominator as \(x\) approaches infinity.

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Participants are engaging in a productive exploration of the limit, with some confirming the reasoning behind the application of L'Hopital's Rule and discussing the outcomes of repeated differentiation. There is an acknowledgment of the behavior of the terms involved, but no explicit consensus has been reached regarding the final interpretation of the limit.

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There is an underlying assumption that the limit is of indeterminate form and that the application of L'Hopital's Rule is valid in this context. Participants are also considering the implications of differentiating the natural logarithm and the resulting expressions.

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Hi all.
I'm slightly confused with the following limit prob:
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} \frac{(ln (x))^n}{x}[/tex]
which I know = 0. (n is a positive integer)
It looks like it's of indeterminate form, that is
[tex]\frac{\infty}{\infty}[/tex]
Using L'Hopital's, it looks like you get another indeterminate form:
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} \frac{n(ln (x))^{n-1}}{x}[/tex]
...and so on and so on.
Is it correct to assume that, applying L'Hopital's n times, you'll eventually get:
[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} \frac{n\cdot (n-1)\cdot (n-2) \cdot ... \cdot 1}{x}[/tex]
which is equal to zero?
Thanks,
Bailey
 
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I edited the above...hopefully it looks clearer.

Isn't the derivative of the natural log [tex]1/x[/tex]
and you keep on doing it "n" times...so you always end up with an "x" in the denominator when applying L'Hopital's rule...until you get [tex]1/x[/tex] with all of the "n" terms in the numerator.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Bailey
 
yes that's right. chain rule. no matter what positive integer n, in the end you will have some fixed number in the numerator but the denominator goes to infinity so it wins out and the limit will be zero.
 
Thanks...I wanted to make sure I was on the right track.

Best wishes,
bailey
 

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