Is Multi-Valued Functions a Misnomer?

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The discussion revolves around the terminology and conceptual understanding of "multi-valued functions," particularly in the context of real and complex numbers. Participants explore the implications of defining functions, the nature of multi-valued functions, and the potential confusion arising from their usage in mathematical literature.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that the term "multi-valued function" is a misnomer, suggesting that a function, by definition, should only have a single output for each input.
  • Others contend that in the context of complex numbers, multi-valued functions are a necessary generalization, allowing for useful mathematical expressions like the logarithm.
  • A participant questions whether it would be more accurate to refer to the logarithm as a relation in the complex numbers that becomes a function only after a branch cut is applied.
  • Some express concern over the terminology used in introductory mathematics, suggesting that it leads to misunderstandings about the nature of functions and their domains.
  • One participant proposes that multi-valued functions should be viewed as a broader category that encompasses traditional functions, rather than a subset.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of defining domains in mathematics, with some arguing that the concept of a function's domain should be tied to its natural limitations, while others criticize this approach as mathematically unsound.
  • Mathematical considerations regarding cardinality and the nature of mappings from real numbers to real numbers are also raised, with speculation about the implications for multi-valued functions.

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Participants express a range of views on the appropriateness of the term "multi-valued function," with no consensus reached. There is significant disagreement regarding the implications of defining domains and the nature of functions in different mathematical contexts.

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Participants highlight limitations in the definitions and assumptions surrounding functions and domains, particularly in educational contexts. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of mathematical terminology and its implications for understanding.

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I'm just checking here, but Wolfram and Wikipedia (my 2 most common and highly ranked internet mathematical encyclopedias) are really correct to use the term "MultiValued Function" are they?

I commonly see on Wolfram "f(x) is a multi valued function, and hence requires a branch cut..." but I have learned that if it has 2 output values for a single input, then it is not a function, *by definition*. This abuse of notation is really annoying me because it could put into confusion the actual definition of a function.

The perfect example of an oxymoron =]
 
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In terms of functions of real numbers, yes, a function must be single-valued. But in complex numbers, that becomes much too restrictive. For example ln(z), a very useful (single-valued) function in the real numbers is multi-valued in the complex numbers. Rather than give that up as a function,we relax the definition of function to allow "multi-valued" functions. We still will separate the areas in the range (by the "branch cuts") so that the function is single valued on each "branch".
 
I don't understand, wouldn't it be more correct then to just say that the log is a relation in the complex numbers, and only *after* a branch cut is taken, becomes a function?
 
Who is saying log is a function on C? I see people saying log is a multivalued function on C. Don't just throw out the word 'multivalued'.

Given the genuine abuses of 'functions' propogated throughout introductory courses in mathematics, I would have thought this was incredibly minor. I mean, every single question that asks 'find the domain if this function' is completely an utterly mathematically unsound, for instance.
 
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You are thinking of "multivalued" as a qualifier, as if multivalued functions are a subset of all functions. Think of it the other way around: Multivalued functions are a generalization of the concept of a function rather than a specialization.

Similar abuses of language notation occurs elsewhere in math. One that comes to mind is "Cartesian tensor". Any tensor is a Cartesian tensor, but a Cartesian tensor is not necessarily a tensor. The rules regarding what constitutes a Cartesian tensor are looser than the rules regarding what constitutes a tensor. Similarly, the rules regarding what constitutes a multivalued function are looser than the rules regarding what constitutes a function.
 
So basically, it is just a very minor abuse of notation that shouldn't cause any problems =] And:

matt grime said:
every single question that asks 'find the domain if this function' is completely an utterly mathematically unsound

It was only from you matt grime that I learned this, I hear teachers at school giving these questions all the time. I now know that the domain is part of the original definition of the function.

Thank you all for your replies!
 
Since we are being overly pedantic here, remember that there is no "set of all functions."
 
I was being a bit loose and shouldn't have used the term set when I didn't mean "set".

OTOH, isn't \beth_2, the power set of the continuum, of the same cardinality as the set of all mappings (i.e., functions) from R to R?
 
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OTOH, isn't \beth_2, the power set of the continuum, of the same cardinality as the set of all mappings (i.e., functions) from R to R?

Yeah... and wouldn't that make \beth_3 the cardinality of the set of multivalued functions in one variable? That is, for each point in the domain there are \beth_2 possibilities for a multivalued function, so
\mathfrak{c}^{\beth_2}=\aleph_0^{\beth_2}=\beth_3
is the number of multivalued functions in one real variable. Right?

Wow, that's almost hard to think about -- every point has its own one-dimensional fractal. Shudder.
 
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Originally Posted by matt grime
"every single question that asks 'find the domain if this function' is completely an utterly mathematically unsound"
It was only from you matt grime that I learned this, I hear teachers at school giving these questions all the time. I now know that the domain is part of the original definition of the function.

Thank you all for your replies!

About this point, while I do understand what Matt is getting at here you do have to take into account that when students are first introduced to the concept of domains that they generally know nothing about anything other than real numbers. So the concept of a functions domain being determined by the functions natural limitations of existence over the reals seems like a resonable thing to do.

Personally when the concept of domain is introduced to students in this manner I like to qualify it as the "natural domain" and at least give some other examples where the domain is specified as part of the function definition and qualify it as the "defined domain". To illustrate "defined domain" I usually like to give a nice simple example of a piecewise function like,

<br /> y = \left\{ \begin{array} {cc}<br /> x + 1 &amp; : x \le -1 \\<br /> x - 1 &amp; : x \ge +1 \\<br /> \end{array}

Really is that so terrible?
 
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uart said:
So the concept of a functions domain being determined by the functions natural limitations of existence over the reals seems like a resonable thing to do.

No, it isn't/doesn't (depending on how one corrects that fragment so it is a sentence). It is just poor mathematics, with no excuse.
 
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You can ask questions like "where in \mathbb{R} is f(x)=\sqrt{x} defined so that it is real-valued?" To many students this is the "domain" of a function; and to an extent this is true if you define a limited "universe of discourse".
 

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