Is Munkres Lemma 81.1 Misinterpreted Regarding Normal Subgroups?

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The discussion centers on Munkres' Lemma 81.1, specifically addressing the interpretation of the quotient group pi_1(B,b_0)/H_0. The original statement suggests that H_0 must be a normal subgroup of pi_1(B,b_0) for the quotient to be defined as a group. However, participants argue that this is a misinterpretation, proposing that replacing "subgroup" with "subset" clarifies the lemma, as Munkres refers to pi_1(B,b_0)/H_0 in the context of cosets rather than group structure.

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[SOLVED] munkres lemma 81.1

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The statement of this lemma implies that pi_1(B,b_0)/H_0 is a group. That does not make sense to me because H_0 is not necessarily normal in pi_1(B,b_0).

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Replace the word subgroup with subset and the statement becomes less confusing. Munkres is only talking about \pi_1(B, b_0) / H_0 as a set of cosets.
 

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