Is Natural Unpolarized Light Equivalent to Randomly Fluctuating Elliptic Light?

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The discussion centers on the equivalence of natural unpolarized light and randomly fluctuating elliptic light. Participants agree that natural unpolarized light can be represented as a sum of two orthogonal, linearly polarized components with a fluctuating phase difference. However, there is a debate regarding whether the tilt angle of the elliptic light must also fluctuate alongside the ellipticity. One participant argues that a fixed tilt angle does not negate the randomness of polarization, while another suggests that both parameters should vary for a complete representation.

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Hi

We can represent natural unpolarized light as a sum of two orthogonal, linearly polarized components with a randomly fluctuating phase difference. Is it correct to say that this is equivalent to representing it as elliptic light, where the ellipticity fluctuates randomly in time?


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Interesting. I suppose you could, since the electric field vector can be decomposed into two orthogonal elliptical states. You would have to allow not only the ellipticity but also the tilt angle to fluctuate- why the extra complication?
 
Andy Resnick said:
Interesting. I suppose you could, since the electric field vector can be decomposed into two orthogonal elliptical states. You would have to allow not only the ellipticity but also the tilt angle to fluctuate- why the extra complication?

I was just wondering, no specific reason. But I don't agree with you, when you say the tilt angle has to change as well. When I look at E traversing an ellipse, which has a randomly fluctuating ellipticity ratio -- then that looks like randomly polarized light to me. No need for the angle to change as well.
 
Even if the ellipticity changes randomly, if the orientation angle of the ellipse is fixed then it is not completely random. (If I correctly understand what you are saying.)
 
I see your points, thanks for helping!Niles.
 

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