Is NxN Truly Equivalent to N When Using Gaussian Integers?

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The discussion centers on the equivalence of NxN and N using Gaussian integers. A proposed mapping using products of Gaussian integers shows an injection from NxN into N, but it is noted that the mapping is not onto, as pairs (x,y) and (y,x) are treated the same. Participants highlight that NxN has a different cardinality than N, specifically that NxN is equivalent to the set of rational numbers. The conclusion emphasizes that while there may be a one-to-one mapping, it fails to cover all elements of N, confirming that NxN is not equivalent to N. The conversation ultimately reinforces the distinction in cardinality between these sets.
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I thought of a way to use Gaussian integers to show that NxN~N
We look at (1+i)(1-i) and this corresponds to the coordinate (1,1)
then (1+2i)(1-2i)-->(1,2) then (1+3i)(1-3i)-->(1,3)... and you keep doing this, so we have injected NxN into N.
 
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actually there is a problem with this (x,y) and (y,x) get mapped to the same integer
 
It looks to me like your mapping goes from N to N x N. Is that what you intended? (1 + i)(1 - i) = 1 - i2 = 1 + 1 = 2. So here the integer 2 is mapped to (1, 1). Did you mean for it to go the other way?
 
The fundamental problem is that N x N is NOT equivalent to N, it has the same cardinality as the set of rational numbers. It appears that your assignment is "one-to-one" but not "onto".
 
HallsofIvy said:
The fundamental problem is that N x N is NOT equivalent to N, it has the same cardinality as the set of rational numbers. It appears that your assignment is "one-to-one" but not "onto".

But ##\mathbb{N}## is equivalent to ##\mathbb{N}\times\mathbb{N}##...
 
HallsofIvy said:
The fundamental problem is that N x N is NOT equivalent to N, it has the same cardinality as the set of rational numbers. It appears that your assignment is "one-to-one" but not "onto".
The rationals and the naturals do have the same cardinality.
 
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