Is Sarah Palin's Palm the Key to Her Speech Success?

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The discussion revolves around Sarah Palin's use of notes on her hand during speeches, exploring the implications of this practice on her public perception and political viability. Participants touch on themes of political consistency, public speaking techniques, and the reactions of various political factions, including the tea party movement. The conversation includes humorous observations, critiques of Palin's political strategies, and reflections on the broader political landscape.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants find humor in Palin's use of hand notes, suggesting she should be more subtle in her approach.
  • Others draw parallels between Palin and figures like 'Joe the Plumber,' implying a populist appeal.
  • There are critiques of Palin's consistency, particularly in her defense of controversial figures while criticizing others.
  • Some participants express concern over her potential candidacy for the presidency and its implications for the Republican Party.
  • Comments on the term "tea-baggers" highlight its controversial nature and the mixed feelings about its use within the movement.
  • Several participants question the viability of Palin as a candidate, with some expressing disbelief at her popularity and potential for future elections.
  • Humorous suggestions about future candidates needing to adopt similar note-taking practices are made.
  • There are reflections on the broader political context, including the impact of disinformation campaigns and public sentiment towards various political figures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on Palin's effectiveness or future in politics. Disagreement exists regarding her political strategies, public perception, and the implications of her actions for the Republican Party and the tea party movement.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying interpretations of Palin's actions and the political landscape, as well as differing definitions of terms like "tea-baggers." The discussion reflects a mix of humor, critique, and serious political analysis without resolving the underlying tensions.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in political commentary, public speaking strategies, and the dynamics of contemporary American politics may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
Chi Meson said:
Political forum, please.

Thank you.
I originally started it as a comical video for GD.

<sigh>It does need to be moved now.
 
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  • #32
Chi Meson said:
Political forum, please.

Thank you.

I noticed that you always tend to make this request .. :)
 
  • #33
rewebster said:
palin--palmlines.jpg

That's a poor photo shop. For one thing, it shows the wrong hand. For another, the letters are obviously superimposed over the picture rather than being written on the hand.

Geez, you couldn't just write on your hand with real indelible ink and then snap a photo?

Yeah, it would seem like having stuff permanently written on your hand in indelible ink for eternity would be a problem, but I know a secret tip for removing it. Just trace over the indelible ink with a dry erase marker and the indelible ink will magically be erasable.

Always verify internet myths before actually trying them on your self - in other words, write on your girlfriend's forehead and verify it's erasable before writing on your own hand.
 
  • #34
BobG said:
That's a poor photo shop. For one thing, it shows the wrong hand.

OK--corrected






palin--palmlines2.jpg
 
  • #35
Evo said:
I originally started it as a comical video for GD.

<sigh>It does need to be moved now.

Come to think of it, perhaps PF should steer clear of political discussions all together. It seems pointless to argue, we can't change anything with any of our posts no matter how logical you make them.
 
  • #36
We could start some sort of community where everyone gets along and we all share. It could be some sort of "utopia" a Utopian society of sorts.
That will show those democritans!
Revolutionary idea is it not?
 
  • #37
cronxeh said:
Come to think of it, perhaps PF should steer clear of political discussions all together. It seems pointless to argue, we can't change anything with any of our posts no matter how logical you make them.

do you mean, like most things in life?
 
  • #38
rewebster said:
OK--corrected






palin--palmlines2.jpg

Now, it's finally clear to me why she says such dumb things! :smile::smile:

Poor Sarah!

"What did I write?! OMG! Am I blonde?!"
 
  • #39
rewebster said:
do you mean, like most things in life?

No. I refuse to believe that. The closets politician I could see myself associate with is Ron Paul.
 
  • #40
cronxeh said:
No. I refuse to believe that. The closets politician I could see myself associate with is Ron Paul.

are you saying you want to be in a closet with Ron Paul?
 
  • #41
rewebster said:
are you saying you want to be in a closet with Ron Paul?

My keyboard had a Feudian slip
 
  • #42
Ivan Seeking said:
We elected Obama because he is a fantastically skilled and capable person; so much so that he was able to defeat racism with hope.

huh? Skilled at what...breaking campaign promises? Better yet, when was racism put to death...at the beer summit?
 
  • #43
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  • #44
Sarah Palin is a God.
 
  • #45
Brian_C said:
Sarah Palin is a God.
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  • #46
Sarah Palin is a cliche...

and if it wasn't for 'written' speeches where her only asset shows (confidence in what she is saying--which usually IS a bunch of cliches)
 
  • #47
Didn't Obama use a tele-prompter to address students in a 6th grade classroom?
 
  • #48
WhoWee said:
Didn't Obama use a tele-prompter to address students in a 6th grade classroom?
A tele-prompter is acceptable, also notes, scribbling on your hand to pretend that you don't need a tele-prompter or notes...
 
  • #49
Evo said:
A tele-prompter is acceptable, also notes, scribbling on your hand to pretend that you don't need a tele-prompter or notes...
And to pretend she could answer a planted question that she couldn't manage to remember the answer to. I don't know how the teabaggers think, but I want to vote for a candidate that is smarter and better-informed than I am, and smarter and better-informed than the opponent(s).
 
  • #50
turbo-1 said:
And to pretend she could answer a planted question that she couldn't manage to remember the answer to. I don't know how the teabaggers think, but I want to vote for a candidate that is smarter and better-informed than I am, and smarter and better-informed than the opponent(s).

Again, why does Obama need a teleprompter to address a 6th grade classroom? How does that make you feel - I doubt BOTH of them based upon the info available.
 
  • #51
WhoWee said:
Again, why does Obama need a teleprompter to address a 6th grade classroom? How does that make you feel - I doubt BOTH of them based upon the info available.
Obviously a president wouldn't spend time memorizing things he'd want to mention one time only to a group of 6th graders. I'm sure his press people make sure he has a teleprompter at all of his public gatherings, makes sense. Now if he used a teleprompter meeting with heads of state, or in a one on one interview, that would be another issue.
 
  • #52
Evo said:
A tele-prompter is acceptable, also notes,
Acceptable? To who? The political police?

scribbling on your hand to pretend that you don't need a tele-prompter or notes...
Who says she was pretending versus improvising on the fly?
 
  • #53
mheslep said:
Who says she was pretending versus improvising on the fly?
Do you honestly believe that she had her talking points jotted on her hand, so she could answer a random question from the audience? The question was planted, the answer was pre-planned to make her look good, but she couldn't remember the answer without crib notes.

We all remember how badly she stumbled when Katie Couric threw her softball questions. Imagining that woman in the White House is frightening beyond words.
 
  • #54
turbo-1 said:
Do you honestly believe that she had her talking points jotted on her hand, so she could answer a random question from the audience? The question was planted, the answer was pre-planned to make her look good, but she couldn't remember the answer without crib notes.
Non-sequitor.
 
  • #55
mheslep said:
Acceptable? To who? The political police?
Acceptable to the audience, apparently, it's a common practice.

Who says she was pretending versus improvising on the fly?
Because in the video she turns her palm up and stares into it after asked the question and then repeats what's written on her hand. It was hysterical.
 
  • #56
Evo said:
Obviously a president wouldn't spend time memorizing things he'd want to mention one time only to a group of 6th graders. I'm sure his press people make sure he has a teleprompter at all of his public gatherings, makes sense. Now if he used a teleprompter meeting with heads of state, or in a one on one interview, that would be another issue.

I realize he's busy - but couldn't he "wing it" for a classroom of 6th graders?
 
  • #57
WhoWee said:
I realize he's busy - but couldn't he "wing it" for a classroom of 6th graders?

are you comparing Palin and Obama?

:smile:
 
  • #58
WhoWee said:
I realize he's busy - but couldn't he "wing it" for a classroom of 6th graders?
Have you seen the video? The speech was a policy speech for his "Race to the Top" educational program. It's a $1.3 Billion initiative meant to reward educational systems that make innovative changes in their systems that improve student outcomes. He explained the competitive nature of the initiative, and how the grant money wouldn't be handed out just because the state education departments asked for money. The speech was not aimed at 6th graders, but at the general public, through the press. There were students in the classroom, but it surely wasn't a 6th grade classroom they were using. In the video, there are crude cut-out pictures made of construction paper, and along the wall in back of him, there is a book labeled "Our circle book", and another labeled "Alphabet book" It appears that the WH staff grabbed an unused classroom (likely pre-school) to set up the podium and other equipment for the presentation.
 
  • #59
Evo said:
Acceptable to the audience, apparently, it's a common practice.

Because in the video she turns her palm up and stares into it after asked the question and then repeats what's written on her hand. It was hysterical.
I was addressing the issue of preparing notes before the fact - piece of paper or hand - the choice of one or the other doesn't by itself reflect a pose that one doesn't need notes.
 
  • #60
mheslep said:
I was addressing the issue of preparing notes before the fact - piece of paper or hand - the choice of one or the other doesn't by itself reflect a pose that one doesn't need notes.

maybe you don't see the difference between what (and why she had to) was written on her hand, and a speech.
 

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