News Is Sarah Palin's Palm the Key to Her Speech Success?

[MotoH]

Have you seen the video? The speech was a policy speech for his "Race to the Top" educational program. It's a $1.3 Billion initiative meant to reward educational systems that make innovative changes in their systems that improve student outcomes. He explained the competitive nature of the initiative, and how the grant money wouldn't be handed out just because the state education departments asked for money. The speech was not aimed at 6th graders, but at the general public, through the press. There were students in the classroom, but it surely wasn't a 6th grade classroom they were using. In the video, there are crude cut-out pictures made of construction paper, and along the wall in back of him, there is a book labeled "Our circle book", and another labeled "Alphabet book" It appears that the WH staff grabbed an unused classroom (likely pre-school) to set up the podium and other equipment for the presentation.

So the speech was just put in a classroom "just cause"? And not a speech to 6th graders. Correct?

 

[WhoWee]

are you comparing Palin and Obama?

Ivan started the comparisons - ask him.

 

[WhoWee]

So the speech was just put in a classroom "just cause"? And not a speech to 6th graders. Correct?

Are you suggesting the 6th graders were props - much like the soldiers at West Point?

 

[turbo]

So the speech was just put in a classroom "just cause"? And not a speech to 6th graders. Correct?

The classroom was a backdrop for a policy speech about Obama's educational initiative. I'm sure the kids were thrilled, and I'm just as sure that Obama didn't have cheat sheets to answer the kids' questions after the speech.

 

[WhoWee]

The classroom was a backdrop for a policy speech about Obama's educational initiative. I'm sure the kids were thrilled, and I'm just as sure that Obama didn't have cheat sheets to answer the kids' questions after the speech.

If he needed to read the speech from a teleprompter, how can you be so sure he didn't have notes?

 

[MotoH]

I was just wondering, because it seems like what Obama was talking about, is a bit over the heads of 6th graders.

I would be thrilled to hell too if the President of the United States came to speak at my school. Heck it was awesome when Dick Cheney came to our town!

 

[MotoH]

If he needed to read the speech from a teleprompter, how can you be so sure he didn't have notes?

You really think he would need notes to answer questions like, "What is it like to be the President?" and "What do you have for supper?"

 

[WhoWee]

You really think he would need notes to answer questions like, "What is it like to be the President?" and "What do you have for supper?"

Are you asking for an opinion?

 

[turbo]

If he needed to read the speech from a teleprompter, how can you be so sure he didn't have notes?

What kind of notes? Do you think Obama has to resort to having pre-planned talking points for questions from 6th graders? Maybe his staff planted questions with the kids and Obama is too thick to be able to answer them without help. You Palin fans sure are reaching.

Apparently Palin's handlers didn't bother to explain to her that Obama made a policy speech about a fairly significant educational initiative IN A SCHOOL and that it was not directed at the 6th graders but at educators, politicians, and the general public.

 

[WhoWee]

What kind of notes? Do you think Obama has to resort to having pre-planned talking points for questions from 6th graders? Maybe his staff planted questions with the kids and Obama is too thick to be able to answer them without help. You Palin fans sure are reaching.

Apparently Palin's handlers didn't bother to explain to her that Obama made a policy speech about a fairly significant educational initiative IN A SCHOOL and that it was not directed at the 6th graders but at educators, politicians, and the general public.

So you agree the kids were props?

Again, if he needed a teleprompter to make the speech - how can you be soooo sure he didn't need notes to answer questions about the speech?

 

[Evo]

If he needed to read the speech from a teleprompter, how can you be so sure he didn't have notes?

Whowee, you have restated the same thing at least a half dozen times, time to move on. Please do not keep reposting the same thing over and over. Once is enough.

 

[WhoWee]

Teleprompters and notes are out in the open and visible, scribbles on the palm of your hand aren't meant to be noticed, nor are they something one would expect an adult would do, especially not one that is trying to make people think they are competant. IIRC, she tried to disparage Obama because he used a teleprompter. Teleprompters and speech notes are fine.

For the record, I believe Palin made a stupid mistake - given the amount of information scribbled on her palm, a simple 3x5 index card would have served her well.

As for Obama's reliance on the teleprompter - I find it curious.

 

[WhoWee]

Apparently Palin's handlers didn't bother to explain to her that Obama made a policy speech about a fairly significant educational initiative IN A SCHOOL and that it was not directed at the 6th graders but at educators, politicians, and the general public.

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[rewebster]

So you agree the kids were props?

do you think standing in front of the White House is a prop?


What's you're hang up with the word, 'prop'?

is everything that you don't agree with propaganda to you?


"Theatrical property, a portable item used in performances; also applies to film and television productions"

or
"Propaganda, the dissemination of information aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviors of people. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prop

 

[WhoWee]

"Theatrical property, a portable item used in performances; also applies to film and television productions"

If the kids were used as a back drop and he made a speech over their heads - they were "stage props" - is that better?

 

[turbo]

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You shouldn't be puzzled. Palin was the one that made fun of Obama for using a teleprompter to speak to 6th graders. Either she didn't bother looking at the video herself (likely) or her handlers kept her ignorant of the target audience for the speech, so she'd use the "teleprompter to talk to 6th graders" as a low-brow zinger. It seemed to resonate with her target audience, so apparently they believed her claim. I doubt that even now, many of them have bothered to view the video of the policy speech.

http://vodpod.com/watch/2894572-race-to-the-top-for-education-reform

 

[rewebster]

WhoWee, if you like, love, whatever, Palin for who she is and how she presents herself--that's your choice...

if you stand up for her, that's your choice, too...

 

[mheslep]

... I don't know how the teabaggers think, but I want to vote for a candidate that is smarter and better-informed than I am, and smarter and better-informed than the opponent(s).

Yes, those are important qualities to me as well. As are a host of other issues, such as a disinclination to condescend to big groups of my fellow Americans.

 

[Hurkyl]

WhoWee, if you like, love, whatever, Palin for who she is and how she presents herself--that's your choice...

if you stand up for her, that's your choice, too...

That almost sounds like an argumentum ad hominem...

 

[rewebster]

That almost sounds like an argumentum ad hominem...

if a person defends a very unpopular figure, that person will have to be defending that very unpopular person from a lot of different aspects

 

[Hurkyl]

if a person defends a very unpopular figure, that person will have to be defending that very unpopular person from a lot of different aspects

If the people who are levying criticism feel the need to change the subject, I consider that a successful demonstration that the criticism was without merit.

Speaking of which...

If he needed to read the speech from a teleprompter, how can you be so sure he didn't have notes?

What kind of notes? Do you think Obama has to resort to having pre-planned talking points for questions from 6th graders? Maybe his staff planted questions with the kids and Obama is too thick to be able to answer them without help. You Palin fans sure are reaching.

Apparently Palin's handlers didn't bother to explain to her that Obama made a policy speech about a fairly significant educational initiative IN A SCHOOL and that it was not directed at the 6th graders but at educators, politicians, and the general public.

Nicely dodged.

 

[lisab]

Obama addressed the Republicans a few weeks back (there was a thread on it). He answered all their questions without a teleprompter, cameras rolling, live video streaming the whole time...he aced it. Anyone who thinks the guy can't think on his feet should see the video.

What cracks me up is what was actually written on her hand...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00682/palin_2_682445a.jpg

...because there was something there crossed out. Dang it, there's a joke in there somewhere, but I've been studying QM all day and my mind isn't nimble enough right now to catch it...

 

[lisab]

Oh and if anyone still has their panties in a bunch about Obama using a teleprompter...you need to see this...and lighten up a bit...

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obamas_home_teleprompter"

 

[drankin]

Obama addressed the Republicans a few weeks back (there was a thread on it). He answered all their questions without a teleprompter, cameras rolling, live video streaming the whole time...he aced it. Anyone who thinks the guy can't think on his feet should see the video.

What cracks me up is what was actually written on her hand...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00682/palin_2_682445a.jpg

...because there was something there crossed out. Dang it, there's a joke in there somewhere, but I've been studying QM all day and my mind isn't nimble enough right now to catch it...

I can make out two of the words:
top "Energy"
third down "lift..."

Looks like motivational phrases to me.

 

[lisab]

I can make out two of the words:
top "Energy"
third down "lift..."

Looks like motivational phrases to me.

The third one is "lift America's spirits" I think...I'd have to check but I think she actually used that phrase when being interviewed.

 

[Evo]

The third one is "lift America's spirits" I think...I'd have to check but I think she actually used that phrase when being interviewed.

The words are

"Energy, Budget cuts (with "budget" crossed out), Tax, Lift American Spirits")

from the link in the OP.

 

[lisab]

from the link in the OP.

Ah thanks I'm apparently brain dead tonight.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Huh, I see
EasyOff
bread
tea
lites
asprin
spirits

 

[WhoWee]

Would anyone now like to attempt to "read" her palm?

 

[Hurkyl]

Huh, I see
EasyOff
bread
tea
lites
asprin
spirits

Really?

(I only ask because I can't tell if you're being serious or if you're trying to insult her)