Is the Age of Scientific Censure Imminent?

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The discussion revolves around concerns regarding potential scientific censure and the implications of political influence on climate change research and energy policy. Participants explore the motivations behind governmental inquiries into scientific work, particularly in the context of the Trump administration's transition team and its approach to climate-related topics.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern that the administration's inquiries into climate change research may indicate a broader agenda to suppress dissenting scientific views.
  • Others argue that the questions posed by the transition team, particularly regarding the Social Cost of Carbon, are reasonable and necessary for transparency.
  • There is a viewpoint that the economic elite may disregard the consequences of climate change, prioritizing economic growth over sustainability.
  • Some participants highlight the potential for suppression of innovative energy solutions, such as fusion energy and advanced solar technology, if they threaten existing economic structures.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the nature of the questions being asked should be scrutinized, as they may reflect an intent to undermine established scientific findings.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of compiling lists of scientists and their work, suggesting it could lead to marginalization of those advocating for sustainability.
  • Some participants note that certain questions in the transition team's inquiry could promote nuclear power, indicating a nuanced understanding of energy policy.
  • There is a discussion about the legitimacy of the questions posed, with some arguing that they are well-formulated and indicative of a serious approach to energy issues.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement. While some find the inquiries reasonable, others perceive them as indicative of a troubling trend towards scientific censure. The discussion remains unresolved, with competing views on the implications of the transition team's actions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about the motivations behind the inquiries and the potential consequences for scientific integrity. There is a lack of consensus on whether the questions are fundamentally reasonable or indicative of a more sinister agenda.

  • #31
From yesterday's Washington Post:

Scientists are frantically copying U.S. climate data, fearing it might vanish under Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...under-trump/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.1c6889832524

Alarmed that decades of crucial climate measurements could vanish under a hostile Trump administration, scientists have begun a feverish attempt to copy reams of government data onto independent servers in hopes of safeguarding it from any political interference.

The efforts include a “https://ischool.utoronto.ca/content/guerrilla-archiving-event-saving-environmental-data-trump ” event in Toronto, where experts will copy irreplaceable public data, meetings at the University of Pennsylvania focused on how to download as much federal data as possible in the coming weeks, and a collaboration of scientists and database experts who are compiling an online site to harbor scientific information...

But today's surprise development is:

Donald Trump's transition team is backing away from a controversial questionnaire sent to the Department of Energy demanding names of employees who assisted in the Obama administration's climate policy efforts.

ABC News obtained last week the 74-point memo, which asks for names of staff members who worked on climate-related projects.

The Department of Energy hit back on Tuesday with a statement saying that the memo "left many in our workforce unsettled" and that it would not comply with questions asking for names of individuals.

DOE officials "respect the professional and scientific integrity and independence of our employees at our labs and across our department," agency spokesman Eben Burnham-Snyder said in a statement.

The Trump transition team has repeatedly declined to respond to ABC News' requests for comment, but in a statement to ABC News today, an official said, "The questionnaire was not authorized or part of our standard protocol. The person who sent it has been properly counseled." ...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trum...tionnaire-energy-department/story?id=44190652

Which leaves me extremely curious about the identity of the transition team member who went rogue and issued an unauthorized questionnaire to the DOE.
 
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"experts will copy irreplaceable public data, "
Oxymoron.
 
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Bystander said:
"experts will copy irreplaceable public data, "
Oxymoron.

How so? I think you way over state.
These are big database sets, but just a couple of books someone might have laying around.
Maybe you have no respect for the data.
 

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