Is the Central Limit Theorem Applicable to All Random Variables?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the applicability of the Central Limit Theorem (CLT) to different types of random variables and its relationship to the Law of Large Numbers. Participants explore definitions and interpretations of the CLT, as well as distinctions between it and the Law of Large Numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the CLT states that the mean of a sampling distribution approaches the actual population mean as the number of samples increases.
  • Others argue that this definition aligns more closely with the Law of Large Numbers rather than the CLT.
  • A participant clarifies that the CLT applies to independent identically distributed random variables with finite variance, stating that their arithmetic mean approaches a normally distributed variable as the sample size increases.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the essence of the CLT is about the distribution of sums of random variables approaching a normal distribution under certain conditions.
  • There is a suggestion that the CLT encompasses more than just the convergence of means, highlighting the importance of finite variance as a condition not required by the Law of Large Numbers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of the Central Limit Theorem and the Law of Large Numbers. There is no consensus on the applicability of the CLT to all random variables, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of conditions such as independence and finite variance in the context of the CLT, which may not apply universally to all random variables.

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i got 2 different answer when i search it..
"The Central Limit Theorem mean of a sampling distribution taken from a single population"
is that true for you guys?
 
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kristymassi said:
i got 2 different answer when i search it..
"The Central Limit Theorem holds that the mean of a sampling distribution taken from a single population approaches the actual population mean as the number of samples increases."

is that true for you guys?

That's the definition. Your question was in terms of probabilities. So if a population of surgeons is 30% female, the cumulative mean probability p(f) of repeated random samples of the population will converge to a value p(f)=0.3
 
kristymassi said:
i got 2 different answer when i search it..
"The Central Limit Theorem holds that the mean of a sampling distribution taken from a single population approaches the actual population mean as the number of samples increases."

is that true for you guys?

This is the strong law of large numbers not the central limit theorem
 
wofsy said:
This is the strong law of large numbers not the central limit theorem

Of the choices the OP gave, the CLT is the correct choice, Strictly speaking CTL states that for a sequence of independent identically distributed random variables, each having a finite variance; with increasing numbers (of random variables), their arithmetic mean approaches a normally distributed random variable. The law of large numbers states that this mean will converge to the population mean. In practical terms, the two are quite intertwined when dealing with random sampling from a defined static population.
 
SW VandeCarr said:
Of the choices the OP gave, the CLT is the correct choice, Strictly speaking CTL states that for a sequence of independent identically distributed random variables, each having a finite variance; with increasing numbers (of random variables), their arithmetic mean approaches a normally distributed random variable. The law of large numbers states that this mean will converge to the population mean. In practical terms, the two are quite intertwined when dealing with random sampling from a defined static population.

The Central Limit Theorem says much more to me than just the convergence of means - and it requires finite variance, a restriction that is not need for the strong law of large numbers.
 
The essence of the central limit theorem is that a sum of random variables (number increasing without limit), under certain conditions and properly normalized, will have a distribution approaching the normal distribution.
 

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