Is the derivative of f(x) = log(base 5) x equal to 1/(x * ln(5))?

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The discussion revolves around the derivative of the function f(x) = log(base 5) x, specifically whether it is equal to 1/(x * ln(5)). Participants explore various methods for deriving this expression, including logarithmic identities and differentiation techniques.

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  • One participant proposes that the derivative f' '(x) = 1 / (x * log(base 5) e) is acceptable.
  • Another participant outlines a method using implicit differentiation, arriving at the derivative as 1/(ln(a) * a^y) and subsequently simplifying it.
  • A third participant notes that ln(5) = 1 / log5(e), suggesting that if the previous expression was meant to be 1/(x * log_5(e)), it would be correct.
  • A later reply confirms that log(base 5)x can be expressed as ln(x)/ln(5), leading to the derivative being 1/(ln(5) * x), indicating a potential agreement with earlier claims.

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Participants express varying methods and interpretations regarding the derivative, with some agreeing on the final form while others clarify or challenge the initial expressions. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the notation and specific expressions used.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the notation and the interpretation of logarithmic identities, as well as the dependence on the definitions of logarithmic functions in different bases.

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Hello all

I was just wondering whether this is acceptable:

f(x) = log (base 5) x.

f' '(x) = 1 / x * log (base 5) e.

Any responses are greatly appreciated!
 
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Well I don't actually see a method here, try and work it out:

y= \log_a (x)

a^y = x

\ln (a) a^y \frac{dy}{dx} = 1

\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{1}{\ln (a) a^y}

\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{1}{\ln (a) a^{\log_a (x)}}

\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{1}{\ln (a) x}
 
but ln(5)= 1/ log5(e) so if courtrigrad meant

\frac{1}{x log_5(e)}

that's completely correct.
 
I think this is it.

log(base 5)x=ln(x)/ln(5)
d/dx(ln(x)/ln(5)=1/(ln(5)x)

If not, then I'll hit myself over the head with my Calc book.

EDIT: I guess somebody pretty much said the same thing before I did... sorry.
 

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