Is the Image of a Normal Operator the Same as Its Adjoint?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of normal operators in the context of linear algebra, specifically focusing on the relationship between the image of a normal operator and its adjoint in a finite-dimensional vector space.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of showing that the kernel of both the operator and its adjoint are the same, leading to considerations of the rank-nullity theorem. Questions arise regarding the existence of a representative vector in the image of the operator. Some participants suggest examining the orthogonality of the images and kernels to further the argument.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing with various participants questioning the implications of orthogonality and dimensionality. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the images and kernels, but no consensus has been reached on the equality of the images.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of finite-dimensional vector spaces and the properties of normal operators, with specific attention to the implications of orthogonality between images and kernels.

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Homework Statement


Show that if T is a normal operator on a finite dimensional vector space than it has the same image as its adjoint.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I have been able to show that both T and T^{*} have the same kernel. Thus, by using the finite dimension property and the rank nullity theoremit just suffices to show containment one way.

However, if you suppose that a vector v is in the Im(T) I haven't been able to find some representative w such that T*(w) = v.

Does anyone have any idea how to proceed?

Thanks!
 
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Sepen said:

Homework Statement


Show that if T is a normal operator on a finite dimensional vector space than it has the same image as its adjoint.


Homework Equations


N/A


The Attempt at a Solution


I have been able to show that both T and T^{*} have the same kernel. Thus, by using the finite dimension property and the rank nullity theoremit just suffices to show containment one way.

However, if you suppose that a vector v is in the Im(T) I haven't been able to find some representative w such that T*(w) = v.

Does anyone have any idea how to proceed?

Thanks!

You should also be able to show that Im(T) is orthogonal to Ker(T). Use that.
 
Is that necessarily true? And if it is (I know that you can show that Im(T) is orthogonal to Ker(T*) and vice versa), but how does that specifically help?
 
Sepen said:
Is that necessarily true? And if it is (I know that you can show that Im(T) is orthogonal to Ker(T*) and vice versa), but how does that specifically help?

The idea is to show both ##\textrm{im}(T)## and ##\textrm{im}(T^*)## to be orthogonal to ##\textrm{ker}(T)##. For former you will need normality, the latter should be easy.
 
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I understand that but does that necessarily imply that they have to be equal? I recognize that they have to have the same dimensions in that case, but that doesn't get me anywhere.
 
Sepen said:
I understand that but does that necessarily imply that they have to be equal? I recognize that they have to have the same dimensions in that case, but that doesn't get me anywhere.

If you accept the fact in my last post to be true for now, then what would ##\textrm{ker}(T)^\bot## be?
 
Ah it would be Im(T) and it would be Im(T*) so thus they have to be equal?
 
Sepen said:
Ah it would be Im(T) and it would be Im(T*) so thus they have to be equal?

Right!
 

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