Is the Photon Riding on an Electromagnetic Wave?

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Photons and electromagnetic waves represent the same phenomenon but are analyzed through different frameworks. Photons can be viewed as the quanta of the electromagnetic field, while electromagnetic waves provide a broader description of the same concept. Photons do not "ride" on electromagnetic waves; instead, they are discrete packets of energy that interact with the field. Depending on the context, either the wave or photon description may be more useful, and sometimes a combination of both is necessary through quantum electrodynamics. Understanding this relationship requires delving into complex mathematical concepts that go beyond simple analogies.
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Hi there,

I was wondering what the relationship between the photon and the electromagnetic wave is? Is the photon traveling on that wave like a surfer is riding a wave? :-)

Thanks in advance!
 
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No. Photons and the electromagnetic wave refer to the same phenomenon, but analyzed with different mechanics. You could say that the electromagnetic field is made up of photons, or the photons are quanta of the electromagnetic field. But these are just words that don't capture the intricacies of the math. Whenever an electromagnetic field interacts with something, it transfers a discrete amount of energy, angular momentum, and momentum. So we call a unit a photon.
 
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Is the photon traveling on that wave like a surfer is riding a wave? :-)
No. Photons don't even have a meaningful position.

Electromagnetic waves can be described with photons. It is an alternative description for the same thing. Sometimes waves are a more useful description, sometimes photons are more useful, sometimes both don't work and you have to use quantum electrodynamics, which combines both approaches.
 
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