Is the variation of the metric ##\delta g_{\mu\nu}## a tensor?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of the variation of the metric tensor, specifically whether the variation ##\delta g_{\mu\nu}## can be classified as a tensor. Participants explore the implications of different equations related to the variation of the metric and the conditions under which these variations retain tensorial properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants present equations relating to the variation of the metric tensor, questioning whether ##\delta g_{\mu\nu}## and ##\delta g^{\mu\nu}## are tensors based on their index manipulation.
  • Others argue that the Leibniz rule must be applied when calculating variations, suggesting that this impacts the tensorial nature of the variations.
  • A participant states that under variation, while ##g_{\mu\nu}+\delta g_{\mu\nu}## is a tensor, the individual components ##g_{\mu\nu}## and ##\delta g_{\mu\nu}## are not tensors.
  • Another participant suggests that the presence of an extra minus sign in the equations does not affect the tensorial transformation properties.
  • There is a discussion about how to distinguish which of the presented equations holds for each tensorial quantity, indicating uncertainty about the implications of the minus sign in the context of tensor variations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether ##\delta g_{\mu\nu}## is a tensor, with some asserting it is not, while others maintain that it is. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing interpretations of the equations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific equations and rules for raising and lowering indices, but there is a lack of consensus on the validity of these applications in the context of variations. The discussion highlights the complexity of tensor calculus and the nuances involved in variations of the metric tensor.

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1. We can derive the equation
$$ \delta g^{\mu\nu}=-g^{\mu\alpha}g^{\nu\beta}\delta g_{\alpha\beta} $$
by indeces up down operation. In the world whose metric tensor is g,
$$ g^{\mu\nu}=g^{\mu\alpha}g^{\nu\beta}g_{\alpha\beta} $$
In another new world whose metric tensor is ##\bar{g}##,
$$ \bar{g}^{\mu\nu}=\bar{g}^{\mu\alpha}\bar{g}^{\nu\beta}\bar{g}_{\alpha\beta} $$
Say the difference of metric tensors is small
$$ \bar{g}_{\mu\nu}=g_{\mu\nu}+\delta g_{\mu\nu} $$ we can get this equation in first order of ##\delta g##.

2. In the new world where ##\delta g \neq 0##, in first order of ##\delta g##.
$$ g^{\mu\nu} \neq \bar{g}^{\mu\alpha}\bar{g}^{\nu\beta} g_{\alpha\beta} $$
$$ \delta g^{\mu\nu} \neq \bar{g}^{\mu\alpha}\bar{g}^{\nu\beta} \delta g_{\alpha\beta} $$
Neither old metric nor the differece of new-old satisfies indecies up-down relation but their sum satisfies it. Reciprocally, neither new metric nor the difference of old-new satisfies indecies up-down relation but their sum does it.

3. $$(\delta g)^{\mu\nu}=g^{\mu\alpha}g^{\nu\beta}(\delta g)_{\alpha\beta}$$
satisfies the indeces up down relation. I want concilliation of 2 and 3 for my deeper understanding.
 
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