Is the Velocity Equation for SHM Correctly Derived Without Calculus?

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the velocity equation for simple harmonic motion (SHM) without the use of calculus. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the equations provided by their teacher, specifically the relationship between displacement and velocity in SHM.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between displacement and velocity in SHM, questioning the correctness of the provided equations. Some participants discuss the implications of different initial conditions on the equations, particularly at t=0.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the equations related to velocity in SHM, with participants providing insights and clarifications based on different initial conditions. No consensus has been reached, but various interpretations and approaches are being discussed.

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The original poster mentions a lack of understanding of calculus, which may influence their interpretation of the equations. Additionally, there is a focus on the conditions at t=0 and how they affect the derived equations.

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Hi :smile:

I am a bit lost with the equations for velocity:

I don't know Calculus yet, so my teacher just gave me the equation:

-wx0cos(wt) (w being omega)

He then said: v0 = wx0

and therefore, concluded: -v0cos(wt)

and then for when the displacement is maximum at time = 0: v0cos(wt)

Is this correct? I mean, I am obviously not doubting him but I am a bit confused plus my notes were not very organized on this day...

Thanks in advance
 
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when t =0, ωt = 0 and cos(ωt) = 1

So vo = -xo*ω
 
So the equation would be:

v0cos(wt)

and for sin, how would it work?
 
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The sign and the function sin or cos depends on the instant you are taking t=0. If t is taken zero when the particle is at the equilibrium position (x=0) than the equation for displacement will be x= A sin wt and that for velocity will be v = Aw cos wt

thus at extreme position wt = 90 deg, gives x = A and v = 0.
(A is amplitude and Aw = Vo, the maximum velocity)
 

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