Is the Velocity negative or positive?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the calculation of the velocity of a log thrown over the Grand Canyon and its impact with the ground. The subject area includes kinematics and gravitational acceleration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the sign convention for velocity and acceleration, questioning whether the velocity should be considered negative due to the downward direction of the log's motion. There is also discussion about the consistency of using positive or negative values for gravitational acceleration.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights about the choice of sign for acceleration and velocity. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of these choices, but there is no explicit consensus on the final interpretation of the results.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding varying accelerations in different problems and the implications of net forces acting on objects, indicating a need for clarification on these concepts.

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Homework Statement


If you were to throw a large log over the edge of the Grand Canyon and it took 5.65 seconds to hit the ground, calculate the velocity of the log at impact in m/s and calculate the distance the log fell in feet.[/B]

Homework Equations


vf=vi+at[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


So I get vf=(9.8)(5.65)= 55.4 ...But then I think about it, and the object is going downwards so shouldn't it's velocity be negative (South)..? Also, is 9.8 supposed to be positive or negative?[/B]
 
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You can choose g to be positive or negative, whichever you wish. The final velocity here will take on whatever sign you give to g. The important thing is that you remain consistent! :)
 
NascentOxygen said:
You can choose g to be positive or negative, whichever you wish. The final velocity here will take on whatever sign you give to g.

So there's always two right answers?
 
rasofia77 said:
So there's always two right answers?
Not really. It's final velocity is 55.4 m/s towards the centre of the Earth. That's one answer. :)

I'd be concerned about your omission of the units when talking of velocity, though.
 
NascentOxygen said:
Not really. It's final velocity is 55.4 m/s towards the centre of the Earth. That's one answer. :)

I'd be concerned about your omission of the units when talking of velocity, though.

Sorry, haha *m/s. One last question, is acceleration the same for all objects?
Well, it is, due to gravity (9.8m/s^2) ..but then again I get confused because there's so many different word problems with different accelerations as answers, obviously. What would be the final, true answer though?
 
rasofia77 said:
Sorry, haha *m/s. One last question, is acceleration the same for all objects?
g is the same for all objects in a particular location. Whether the object is accelerating depends on the net force. Gravity is only one of many forces that may be acting simultaneously on an object.

Well, it is, due to gravity (9.8m/s^2) ..but then again I get confused because there's so many different word problems with different accelerations as answers, obviously. What would be the final, true answer though?
The answer to what?
 

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