Is the Young's Modulus Equation Homogeneous?

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The discussion revolves around the Young's modulus equation and whether it is homogeneous. Participants are examining the dimensional analysis of the equation used in an experiment to determine Young's modulus.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to verify the dimensional consistency of the Young's modulus equation, with some expressing confusion over the derived units and questioning whether the equation is indeed homogeneous.

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There are mixed interpretations regarding the dimensional analysis. Some participants offer checks on the units involved, while others suggest that mistakes may have been made in calculations. No consensus has been reached, but there is ongoing exploration of the units and their implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the Young's modulus should have specific units, and there are references to discrepancies found in online sources regarding these units.

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Homework Statement


I'm doing an experiment to determine the young's modulus involving the following equation:

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The Attempt at a Solution


Finding the base units of the young's modulus with the equation resulted in the young's modulus being dimensionless, which of course is not true.

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Further attempts to check if the equation is homogeneous resulted in the equation not being homogeneous. Can someone double check whether or not this is the case?
 
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The difference between two values with units kg/m is a value with units kg/m.

If it happens to be exactly zero, then some quantity is zero, but that is not part of the dimensional analysis.
 
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mfb said:
The difference between two values with units kg/m is a value with units kg/m.

If it happens to be exactly zero, then some quantity is zero, but that is not part of the dimensional analysis.

You're right, that's a mistake.

I've worked out the base units again and this is what i got.

\frac{m}{y} = \frac{8.π.r^2.ϒ.y^2}{g.L^3} + \frac{4.T}{L.g}

\frac{kg}{m} = \frac{kg.m^5.s^-2}{m^4.s^-2} + \frac{kg}{m}

\frac{kg}{m} = kg.m + \frac{kg}{m}
This means the equation is not homogeneous right? Or is there a mistake somewhere?
 
Check the units of Young's modulus.
 
I checked the units in your equation, and they look OK to me.
 
The equation in post 1 ("Relevant equations") has matching units. The calculation in post 3 has a mistake.
 
Yeah, I was taking the value of the Young's from google which seems to be incorrect. It should be kg.m^-1.s^-2
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