Is there a limit to how steep the refractive index gradient can be

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The discussion centers on the limits of refractive index gradients and their impact on ray optics, particularly regarding how steep a gradient can be before ray optics fail to accurately predict light paths. It is noted that the refractive index is wavelength-dependent, and under certain conditions, light can travel perpendicular to the gradient in a straight line. The conversation also touches on whether a sufficiently high refractive index could result in an emergent ray that is parallel to the interface. The eikonal approximation is mentioned as a systematic method to derive ray optics from wave optics, highlighting the potential errors due to rapid changes in refractive index. Overall, the participants seek to clarify the relationship between gradient steepness and light behavior in varying optical conditions.
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Is there a limit to how steep a refractive index gradient can be before ray optics are no longer able to predict the path of the light? How is it related to wavelength? Under what conditions the light will be able to travel perpendicular to the gradient
In a straight line? (having diffrent index to the sides of the beam)
 
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Antonij said:
Is there a limit to how steep a refractive index gradient can be before ray optics are no longer able to predict the path of the light? How is it related to wavelength? Under what conditions the light will be able to travel perpendicular to the gradient
In a straight line? (having diffrent index to the sides of the beam)

The refractive index is, of course, related to the wavelength but there would be no angular dispersion along a Normal Path. Perhaps you could describe in more detail what the context is of your question.
 
sophiecentaur said:
The refractive index is, of course, related to the wavelength but there would be no angular dispersion along a Normal Path. Perhaps you could describe in more detail what the context is of your question.
A ray is coming at a grazing angle (above critical angle) from the optically denser material through the gradient. Will the ray be bent perpendicularily from the normal, traveling in straight line perpendicular to the normal no mayter how steep is the gradient?
 
I assume he's asking this:
1] If you have a ray impinging on an interface between two materials, is it possible to have a refractive index so high that the emergent ray is effectively 0 degrees - parallel to the interface?

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[ EDIT ] Nope. The more times I read the OP the less sense it makes - esp. the very last phrase in parentheses.
 

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DaveC426913 said:
I assume he's asking this:
1] If you have a ray impinging on an interface between two materials, is it possible to have a refractive index so high that the emergent ray is effectively 0 degrees - parallel to the interface?

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[ EDIT ] Nope. The more times I read the OP the less sense it makes - esp. the very last phrase in parentheses.
Your picture is accurate to what i was asking about, except there is a smooth transition between high and low index, not an interface. I know that for a sufficiently "slow changing" gradient this is possible. The question is if there's a limit to how "fast changing" gradient can be so that it behaves the same way
 
A systematic way to derive ray optics as a limit of wave optics is the so called eiconal approximation. It also allows to estimate the errors neglected due to the change of the refractive index. The book by Born and Wolf is certainly a good starting point.
 
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