Discussion Overview
The discussion centers around the challenge of reducing no load power consumption in a wireless cell phone charger circuit. Participants explore various methods to minimize power draw when no phone is connected, including circuit design considerations and sensing mechanisms.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Exploratory
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant expresses the need to stop the circuit from drawing power when no phone is connected, specifically seeking ways to reduce no load power.
- Another participant humorously suggests that without circuit details, a "few pieces of garlic" might be as effective as any solution.
- Several participants propose that the charger should sense when a phone is placed on it to activate charging.
- A suggestion is made to implement a timer that keeps the circuit in standby mode, waking it up periodically to check for a phone's presence via back EMF detection.
- Concerns are raised about the open-loop operation of the circuit, which may lead to overheating components due to continuous power draw regardless of load.
- One participant recommends using PWM with feedback to reduce power draw when no load is detected, and mentions resources for DC to DC converter ICs that could be useful.
- Another participant emphasizes the importance of managing charging current to protect the battery when it is full, indicating that assumptions about battery behavior may need to be revisited.
- Participants inquire about the frequency of oscillation and charging current, with one participant providing specific values of 170 kHz and 100-200 mA.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally agree on the need to reduce no load power consumption, but multiple competing views and approaches remain regarding the best methods to achieve this. The discussion includes both technical suggestions and humorous remarks, indicating a mix of serious inquiry and light-hearted engagement.
Contextual Notes
Some participants express uncertainty about the circuit's design details, such as effective resistance in the coil and the implications of open-loop operation. There are also unresolved questions about battery charging behavior and the specifics of implementing proposed solutions.