Is there an analytic solution to this system of equations?

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The discussion centers on a system of equations involving variables a and m, questioning the possibility of an analytic solution. The equations can be approximated numerically, yielding values of a approximately 0.092409 and m approximately 22.2674, with tools like WolframAlpha providing numerical solutions. The conversation highlights the complexity of the equations, suggesting that they do not lend themselves to an analytical solution due to their non-linear nature. A proposed numerical method involves reformulating the equations and introducing new variables to facilitate solving. Overall, the consensus is that numerical methods are necessary for this problem, as an analytic solution is not feasible.
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I have the following system of equations with variables ##a,m##, and I'm wondering—can this system be solved symbolically/analytically?

\begin{align}
m &= 100 + \frac{ \left( 200 \frac{\ln{\frac{1}{2}}}{26.8} \right) }{\left(\dfrac{\ln{\frac{1}{2}}}{26.8} + a \right)}
\\ \\
50 &= me^{-a\left( 19.9 \right)}- \frac{ \left( 200 \frac{\ln{\frac{1}{2}}}{26.8} \right) \exp{ \left(\dfrac{\ln{\frac{1}{2}}}{26.8} \cdot 19.9 \right) }}{\left(\dfrac{\ln{\frac{1}{2}}}{26.8} + a \right)}
\end{align}

(What are some ways to recognize that a problem does or does not have an analytic solution?)

For this specific example, I understand the answers can be numerically approximated to

\begin{align}
a &\approx 0.092409
\\
m &\approx 22.2674
\end{align}

Via such numerical methods as a graph:
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or other computational device such as WolframAlpha [(link to this problem). For this specific problem, WolframAlpha only provided a numerical approximation.

Note: The variables in the WolframAlpha link are ## a, n ## respectively
 
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If you replace the factor ln(0.5)/26.8 with K and use x and y for a and m you get for the first equation:

y = 100 + 200K/(x+K)

and for the second you get:

50/e^19.9 = y - 200Ke^K/(x+K)

which rearranges to:

y = 50/e^19.9 + 200e^K/(x+K)

From here you can set the equations equal to each other and solve for x noting that x=/= -K
 
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I don't see an analytical solution. For a numerical solution, consider the following:

With
\begin{align*}
m &= 100 + 200 \cdot \frac{\beta}{\beta+a} \\
50 &= m \cdot e^{-19.9a} - 200 \cdot \frac{\beta}{\beta+a} \cdot e^{19.9 \cdot \beta}
\end{align*}
Where \beta = \ln(1/2) / 26.8 \approx -0.02586.

Multiply the second equation by \exp{(19.9 \cdot a)}
\begin{equation*}
50 \cdot e^{19.9 \cdot a} = m - 200 \cdot \frac{\beta}{\beta + a} \cdot e^{19.9 \cdot \beta} \cdot e^{19.9 \cdot a}
\end{equation*}

Let w= \beta + a and substitute first equation into second to yield
\begin{equation*}
c \cdot e^{19.9 \cdot w} = \left[100 + 200 \cdot \frac{\beta}{w}\right] - 200 \cdot \frac{\beta}{w} \cdot e^{19.9 \cdot w}
\end{equation*}
where c = 50 \cdot e^{-19.9 \cdot \beta} \approx 83.6558.

This is a non-linear scalar equation in one parameter w. A numerical solution will be necessary. Before we go down that path, re-scale and introduce a non-parametric variable for w. Let \alpha = a / \beta, \zeta = w / \beta = 1 + \alpha and re-formulate into F(\zeta) = 0.

\begin{equation*}
F(\zeta) = 0 = 100 \cdot \left[ \left(\gamma + \frac{2}{\zeta}\right) \cdot e^{\lambda \cdot \zeta} - \left(1 + \frac{2}{\zeta}\right) \right]
\end{equation*}
where \gamma = c / 100 and \lambda = 19.9 \cdot \beta \approx -.51469.

This could be solved numerically, but we don't know the magnitude or an applicable domain bracket that contains a (ie, \zeta). If we look at the above equation for F, we see it is equivalent to
\begin{equation*}
F(\zeta) = 100 \cdot \left[
\left(1 + \frac{2}{\zeta}\right) \cdot \left(e^{\lambda \cdot \zeta} -1\right) - \mu \cdot e^{\lambda \cdot \zeta}\right]
\end{equation*}
where \mu = 1 - \gamma \approx .167.

If we ignored the last term, we would underestimate F (since \mu > 0 and the exponential is positive). But if we did, we would see that two conditions could result in F= 0:

First: \exp{(\lambda \cdot \zeta)} - 1 = 0. This would imply \zeta = 0 or a = -\beta \approx 0.02586. The scaled error term in F, which is the last term in the expression above, is E = -\mu \cdot e^{\lambda \cdot \zeta} = -\mu = -0.167. However, this is probably not a good idea since we have the 1/\zeta term which contradicts this solution.

Second: 1 + 2 / \zeta = 0. This would imply \zeta = -2 or a = -3 \cdot \beta \approx 0.07759. The scaled error term in F is now E = -\mu \cdot e^{-2 \cdot \lambda} \approx -0.456. That's probably a safer bet. However, since we underestimate F, we should probably bump up this value somewhat (ie, decrease \zeta somewhat away from -2).

Selecting \zeta = -3 yields a scaled value (1/100) \cdot F(-3) \approx 0.4301. We have now bracketed the root. A suggested initial value for an iteration routine would be \zeta^{(0)} \approx -2.5 (ie, a^{(0)} = 0.09052).
 
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TheoMcCloskey said:
I don't see an analytical solution. For a numerical solution, consider the following:

Thank you for the in-depth explanation to a numerical approach, TheoMcCloskey! The technique you outlined is just beyond my current mathematical level of understanding, but it's educating to see a technique like that in action, and it's definitely brought up some points to research.

Does your approach have a specific name? I can't wait to study these concepts in the future.
 
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