Is there an ultimate goal to mathematics progress?

In summary, mathematicians are not facing the same bind as physicists in their search for fundamental questions. The most fundamental questions in mathematics were resolved 80 years ago, and with the invention of computer science, they can be "solved" in a similar way to how Big Blue plays chess. However, this process would require more resources than a billion universes could provide. Most modern mathematicians are not aware of the work of Hilbert and Godel, and their discoveries are not considered significant in the realm of mathematics. This is similar to the Higgs boson, which is fundamental but useless to most physicists.
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Just as physicists are trying to answer their most fundamental questions with the LHC, are mathematicians in a similar bind? Is there a foreseeable time when they will no longer be faced with daunting mysteries?
 
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Newai said:
Just as physicists are trying to answer their most fundamental questions with the LHC, are mathematicians in a similar bind? Is there a foreseeable time when they will no longer be faced with daunting mysteries?

The world isn't a mystery to solve. The search for the Higgs boson makes a pretty headline, but it won't be the end of science. Think of it like chess or football or whatever game you like. The rules are simple. The game is not.

The most fundamental questions of mathematics were resolved 80 years ago. In 1900, Hilbert wanted all of mathematical logic completely axiomatized in a consistent way. In 1931, we found it wasn't possible thanks to Godel. With the invention of computer science, we discovered that all of mathematics can be boiled down to a search algorithm and "solved" essentially the same way Big Blue plays chess. The caveat: to do anything as useful as that sentence sounds would take more resources than a billion universes would be able to provide.

The funny thing is that most modern mathematicians don't care or are even totally unaware of Hilbert and Godel. Godel's work isn't considered significant in the realm of mathematics (it is more important in logic and philosophy), and the reason is that it isn't really applicable to what everyone does.

That sounds a lot like the Higgs boson to me. Yeah, it's the truth. It's fundamental. But it's also totally useless to 99.99% of people in physics. Food chemists will still churn out new products to turn kids' mouths green. Bioengineers will work on new ways to use bacteria to process goods. And all of the material scientists and electrical engineers will continue to pretend that nothing is smaller than the electron.
 
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Wow. That's a lot for me to think about, given the perspective I've had for many years. Thanks!
 

1. What is the ultimate goal of mathematics progress?

The ultimate goal of mathematics progress is to develop a comprehensive and coherent understanding of the relationships and patterns that exist in the world through the use of abstract concepts and logical reasoning.

2. Does mathematics have an ultimate endpoint or limit?

No, mathematics is an ever-evolving field and there is no ultimate endpoint or limit to its progress. As our understanding of the world and technology advances, new mathematical concepts and theories are constantly being developed.

3. Can mathematics progress be measured?

Yes, mathematics progress can be measured in various ways such as the development of new mathematical theories and concepts, the application of mathematics in solving real-world problems, and the advancement of technology through mathematical principles.

4. How does mathematics progress benefit society?

Mathematics progress has numerous benefits for society, such as improving technology and innovation, providing a better understanding of the natural world, and enabling us to solve complex problems in fields such as economics, engineering, and medicine.

5. Are there any limitations to mathematics progress?

While mathematics progress has advanced significantly over the years, there are still limitations to our understanding and application of mathematical concepts. Additionally, there may be limitations in the resources and technology available to further progress in certain areas of mathematics.

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