Is this a problem with the phone software or battery?

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The discussion revolves around issues experienced with a Samsung Galaxy On7 phone, specifically concerning rapid battery discharge and potential hardware or software problems. Participants explore various hypotheses regarding the cause of the battery issues, including app usage, battery health, and hardware malfunctions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes rapid battery discharge, suggesting it could be due to background apps consuming power or a failing battery.
  • Another participant mentions checking app energy usage in device settings to identify any problematic applications.
  • Signal strength is raised as a potential factor affecting battery life, with one participant sharing a personal anecdote about excessive data usage due to poor signal.
  • A participant speculates that a malfunctioning charge controller could be causing inaccurate battery readings.
  • Some participants discuss the possibility of needing a new battery or service center intervention, with one confirming that both the motherboard and battery were ultimately replaced.
  • There is skepticism about claims that installing too many apps could affect motherboard longevity, with differing opinions on the impact of app usage on hardware.
  • Another participant clarifies that while flash memory has limitations, normal smartphone usage typically does not lead to significant issues within the device's lifetime.

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding the cause of the battery issues, with no consensus reached on whether the problem lies primarily with software, hardware, or user behavior.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the relationship between app usage and hardware longevity remain unresolved, and the discussion includes varying interpretations of the impact of signal strength on battery performance.

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I am experiencing weird problems with my phone. It is a Samsung Galaxy On7, running Android 6.0.1, updated to the latest version, unrooted.

Since some days, the battery is falling very fast. For example, if I charge my device to 100%, open chrome and start writing this thread, at the end, it will go down to 60%. And the worst fact is, it just switches off.

Previously, I have used my phone even at 20% battery. Now, I cannot keep it switched on at 60%.

Today, I charged it to 94%, and switched it off. Then I took out the battery, waited for some time, and again put it in. It showed 2% charge was left. I again took the battery out, reinserted it, and found a charge of 75%.

Does this seem to be the problem of phone hardware, OS or battery? Maybe the hardware parts reading charge from battery have become faulty. I have the option to take it to a service centre, but since I cannot go at this moment, I am trying out software trucks to help me.

Any ideas?
 
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One a battery that discharges fast may mean there's an app that is running in the background causing it. I had one such video app that even when in the background unduly used up my battery.

The other issue is that your battery may be on the way out and you may need a new one.

When you removed it from your phone, you might need to wait several minutes before replacing it as some phones might retain the old battery status in memory and report that.

Search online for others who may have the same issue or go see your phone shop:

https://www.technobezz.com/fix-samsung-note-7-battery-life-issues/
 
Go to settings/device maintenance/battery

There you can see a report on app energy usage.

One other factor may be significant, that is signal strength. If you are in a location where the cell phone signal is low, almost zero, the phone works extra hard to keep a connection.
 
Mentioning signal strength reminds me of the time my data plan went through the roof because my wife tried to send me a photo while visiting some natl parks and because of the shoddy signal the phone tried to send the file and failed sending half only. Later it tried again and failed again.

It used a few gigabytes trying and failing to send a photo of a few megabytes because of signal dropout before file transmission was complete.
 
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Its certainly possible something has gone wrong with the charge controller in your phone. Battery charging is not a trivial thing and if something in that sub-system is misbehaving your battery might never be charged as much as the charge controller thinks it is.

Anyway, Google it, if you can't easily find the same issue reported by others, its more likely software than hardware (because many users have exactly the same hardware, very few users have exactly the same software).
 
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jedishrfu said:
One a battery that discharges fast may mean there's an app that is running in the background causing it. I had one such video app that even when in the background unduly used up my battery.
In the developer options, I set the background process limit to 1. Just to check this. But same results.
jedishrfu said:
When you removed it from your phone, you might need to wait several minutes before replacing it as some phones might retain the old battery status in memory and report that
I waited for about 30 minutes.
jedishrfu said:
The other issue is that your battery may be on the way out and you may need a new one.
That is a possible problem. I need to go to the service centre to check this.
 
anorlunda said:
Go to settings/device maintenance/battery

There you can see a report on app energy usage
I have seen that, and I have got the most unrealistic graphs in lifetime. One graph goes like this:

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As per the app usage, all charge is being taken up be the screen. Previously, this was not the case. The screen brightness and timeout are the same as before. But I don't know how a dark screen can take up charge.
anorlunda said:
One other factor may be significant, that is signal strength. If you are in a location where the cell phone signal is low, almost zero, the phone works extra hard to keep a connection.
Chances are less. I live in an area where signal strength is always high.
 

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It's a long time since the last message was posted, but I felt it's my duty to write what happened to the phone finally. I went to the service centre. They examined it, and informed me that both the motherboard and the battery had to be changed. Got a bill of around 56 USD.

Also, they told me not to install too many apps, because that reduces the motherboard life. That can happen? Maybe. I did install and uninstall quite a number of apps since I had bought the phone. Never heard that it affects the motherboard.
 
I think the app thing was bs. I’ve heard that raspberry pi memory is like that with a limited number of reads before failure since its an SD card.
 
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All flash type memories are affected, but it is more about erase cycles, not reads.
For smartphones, with normal usage there should be just a few unlucky cases within the useful lifetime.
 
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