Is My Phone Battery Displaying Infinite Energy?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a user's observation of their phone battery displaying a constant charge level of 94% despite continued usage. Participants explore potential explanations for this phenomenon, including defects, measurement inaccuracies, and calibration issues, as well as drawing parallels to experiences with other types of batteries.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the phone's behavior could indicate a defect in the battery or voltage circuit, noting that it cannot sustain an infinite charge.
  • Others humorously propose extreme solutions, such as physically damaging the phone to potentially reset its behavior.
  • One participant explains that battery charge levels are not straightforward measurements and can be affected by various factors, including the device's ability to estimate capacity based on voltage and amperage over time.
  • A participant shares a related experience with a deep cycle battery, where a faulty voltmeter led to misleading voltage readings, suggesting that measurement errors can occur in battery systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some agreeing on the potential for measurement inaccuracies while others remain skeptical about the initial claim of infinite energy. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the underlying cause of the observed behavior.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the estimation of battery charge levels can be influenced by various factors, including device history and calibration processes, which remain unresolved in this discussion.

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I was recently charging my phone and I plugged it out when it reached 94%. I have been using it for over an hour now, and it still says it is charging and the battery still is at 94%

This is amazing!
 
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Hawksteinman said:
This is amazing!
Sounds like a defect! Could be a defective battery or a defective voltage circuit... one thing is for sure, it will not continue indefinitely!
 
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I thought this belongs to the lame jokes thread
 
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The battery died and now it's working properly
 
Hawksteinman said:
The battery died and now it's working properly

Maybe you should smash it into the ground. It might work even better.

Zz.
 
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Hawksteinman said:
The battery died and now it's working properly
Charge level isn't a "thing" that can be easily measured like the % full that a gas tank is. Electronic devices have various ways of estimating it, and for phones and computers they rely on measuring the voltage and amperage and tracking the capacity over time (because the capacity itself changes). So if you removed and re-inserted the battery, reset the phone, upgraded the software, etc., it could have lost all the history data on the battery and had no idea what the charge level was. Running the battery dead allowed the phone to measure the energy consumption and re-estimate the capacity associated with different voltage levels.

An old laptop of mine, as the battery aged, would occasionally stop charging at 90something% and then as it realized the battery was losing capacity, re-calibrated itself to 100% for the next charge.
 
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I had a similar experience during solar PV testing last year. I was measuring the voltage on my deep cycle battery, and it kept going up, even after I disconnected it from my solar panels. (It had "apparently" exceeded 14.4 volts while hooked up. Ahhh! Do not ever do that.) I thought it was going to explode!

But then I discovered that the battery in my voltmeter was dying, and was the cause of the "apparent" voltage rise. I replaced the battery in my voltmeter, and my deep cycle battery voltage was magically back to normal.
 
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