Printer/Server Compatibility Woes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around compatibility issues between printers, scanners, and Windows 10, particularly focusing on the challenges faced when upgrading from Windows 7. Participants explore the implications of software support for older hardware and share personal experiences with device compatibility.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that software, rather than hardware, is often the source of compatibility issues, advocating for periodic reinstallation of operating systems.
  • Others argue that the main problem in transitioning from Windows 7 to Windows 10 is the lack of driver support for older peripherals, leading to incompatibility.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of using alternative software, such as VueScan, to support older scanners.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of having compatible drivers for both printers and scanners, with some participants questioning whether a single driver needs to work for both devices.
  • Participants express frustration over having disposed of their devices, which complicates troubleshooting and sharing specific model information.
  • One participant shares detailed specifications of a USB network server and discusses its connectivity and compatibility with Windows 10, noting both successes and limitations in accessing the device.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that driver support is a significant issue when upgrading to Windows 10, but there are multiple competing views on how to address these compatibility challenges. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approaches to manage older hardware with newer operating systems.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the specific model numbers of their devices, which may hinder troubleshooting efforts. Additionally, there are references to proprietary protocols and the evolution of technology that may affect compatibility.

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Computer hardware rarely has bugs, it's the software that is the problem. Keeping an OS for too long usually means it picks up inconstancy's from the amount of software you install onto it and the general use. Thus it's agood idea to re-install from scratch every few years.

The hardware resource requirements have not changed much since Windows 7, if your PC can run Windows 7 then it almost certainy can run Windows 10 also.

As for computers being old hat, they are still the primary computing device we have that everything works with. Things like phones and tablets are companion devices but cannot yet run full versions of PC applications. Apple and Android have come a long way in this regard the past 4/5 years but they are still limited. I have lost count the number of times I have had to get the Mrs to do something on my computer because its doesn't work properly on her tablet.
 
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Is there a question in there somewhere or did you just need to get that off your chest?

The main problem in moving from Win7 to Win10 is that peripherals no longer work because vendors drop support for them. For examples, I have a low end printer and a very expensive scanner, neither of which can be made to work with Win10 because there are no drivers that will work with both the printer/scanner and Win10.
 
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Hmm...that was posted as a responce to another thread, unsure how it ended up as a new post.
 
MikeeMiracle said:
Hmm...that was posted as a responce to another thread, unsure how it ended up as a new post.
My fault. We had a report saying that it really didn't belong in the other thread, so I split it out as a new thread.
 
phinds said:
Is there a question in there somewhere or did you just need to get that off your chest?

The main problem in moving from Win7 to Win10 is that peripherals no longer work because vendors drop support for them. For examples, I have a low end printer and a very expensive scanner, neither of which can be made to work with Win10 because there are no drivers that will work with both the printer/scanner and Win10.
Could you present some specifics? I don't see why a single driver program would have to work with both, but perhaps you could install something that's compatible with your scanner, and specify a compatible printer that you don't actually have, and just leave the printer definition in an offline status.
 
sysprog said:
Could you present some specifics? I don't see why a single driver program would have to work with both, but perhaps you could install something that's compatible with your scanner, and specify a compatible printer that you don't actually have, and just leave the printer definition in an offline status.
My statement was condensed. There are no drivers for the printer that work with WIN10 and there are no drivers for the scanner that work with WIN10.
 
phinds said:
My statement was condensed. There are no drivers for the printer that work with WIN10 and there are no drivers for the scanner that work with WIN10.
Hmm. Can you please say the model numbers of the devices?
 
sysprog said:
Hmm. Can you please say the model numbers of the devices?
Already tossed both of them.
 
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phinds said:
Already tossed both of them.
Ouch. 🤔
 
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I feel for you. I had several gigabit quad-USB network servers, into which web-cams could be plugged for multiple view angles. Sorry, not compatible with Win'10...
 
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Nik_2213 said:
I feel for you. I had several gigabit quad-USB network servers, into which web-cams could be plugged for multiple view angles. Sorry, not compatible with Win'10...
Do you still have them? ##-## can you post regarding the manufacturer, model number, and other relevant specs? ##-## and also regarding the Win' 10 machine? ##-## it may be possible to reconfigure or mediate an incompatible device set to make it compatible ##\dots##
 
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2-of Maplin N01JZ 4-port USB Gigabit Network server. *Perhaps* Yes, Elite Silicon Technology Inc © 2010.

Hunted from box-room, dusted and un-packed.

Small black box has power/lan/usb lights. 4@USB ports. Power switch, tiny reset hole, DC 9V inlet and 10/100 port. 'Wall-wart' and mini-CD.
No version or serial apparent. Purchased mid-2011.

The driver disk info covers both an HD PC to TV & Network server (!) and USB network server, but no images are given for the device itself. USB's manual refers to a uNet E-2800 Serial Multiple Function Printer Server Controller using EST 'UNTP' proprietary 'USB over LAN' protocol.

So, I've just connected to spare router port, run IP scanner...
Ha ! That's new !
HP647566 192.168.0.2 Neostar Technology Co Ltd 00:24:32:01:FC:A5

Chrome browser opened...
Manufacturer: Generic Firmware V.2.027.000

Then I put my nearest 'disposable' thumb-drive into port and hit 'Restart Device'. It found the drive, but offered no access. Win'10 x64 Device Manager could not find anything like a networked USB Server. Upside, I know the widget isn't a total brick. Downside, unlike the version in the 'manual', there's no provision for firmware updates.

And, when, I googled for IST, I found they've evolved far, far beyond such 'domestic' widgets !
Ah, well...
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