Is This a Valid Derivation of Kinetic Energy from Work?

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The discussion centers on the derivation of kinetic energy from work, specifically questioning the validity of a concise four-line derivation compared to a more detailed seven-line approach found in textbooks. Participants note that textbooks often prioritize mathematical rigor and clarity, which can be beneficial for students who may not be familiar with the concepts. The conversation highlights the balance between brevity and thoroughness in mathematical explanations, acknowledging that different teaching styles can affect comprehension. Ultimately, the preference for detail versus conciseness in derivations reflects varying educational philosophies. The exchange emphasizes the importance of clarity in teaching complex concepts.
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I am trying to derive the kinetic energy from the work and can I derive it like this ?

$$W=\int Fdr$$
$$W=\int \frac {dp} {dt}dr=\int (dp) \frac {dr} {dt}=\int (mdv)v=1/2m[v_f^2-v_i^2]$$
 
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My book does this in 7 lines mine took 4. I don't know why books sometimes does things in long way.
 
Arman777 said:
My book does this in 7 lines mine took 4. I don't know why books sometimes does things in long way.

Perhaps they prefer at least a modicum of mathematical rigour!
 
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Arman777 said:
My book does this in 7 lines mine took 4. I don't know why books sometimes does things in long way.
There's a bit of personal taste involved here; what one person considers admirable terseness another may consider skipping important steps.

With textbooks an additional consideration is that skipping steps can be a problem for a student who isn't already familiar with the concept. For example, someone taking intro physics concurrently with their first calculus course may have seen their first integral just a few weeks back - it's easy to imagine that your cavalier treatment of the bounds of integration would confuse them.

For what it's worth... I understand your derivation just fine but it's not what I'd be writing on a chalkboard in front of a class.
 
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Nugatory said:
There's a bit of personal taste involved here; what one person considers admirable terseness another may consider skipping important steps.

With textbooks an additional consideration is that skipping steps can be a problem for a student who isn't already familiar with the concept. For example, someone taking intro physics concurrently with their first calculus course may have seen their first integral just a few weeks back - it's easy to imagine that your cavalier treatment of the bounds of integration would confuse them.

For what it's worth... I understand your derivation just fine but it's not what I'd be writing on a chalkboard in front of a class.
Well yes you are right. Thanks for your reply
 
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