Is this a valid parametrisation of a curve?

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Hi, so I am learning how to parametrise curves.

For the curve y^2=16x, I have said let x=t^2. Then, we can say y^2=16t^2, so that we can take the root of this and get y=4t. What I wanted to ask was do we have to say "plus or minus" in front of the 4t, or do we just leave it as positive to get a valid parametrisation?

Thanks.
 
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rickonstark999 said:
Hi, so I am learning how to parametrise curves.

For the curve y^2=16x, I have said let x=t^2. Then, we can say y^2=16t^2, so that we can take the root of this and get y=4t. What I wanted to ask was do we have to say "plus or minus" in front of the 4t, or do we just leave it as positive to get a valid parametrisation?

Thanks.
The question to ask is what values can ##t## take?
 
rickonstark999 said:
Hi, so I am learning how to parametrise curves.

For the curve y^2=16x, I have said let x=t^2. Then, we can say y^2=16t^2, so that we can take the root of this and get y=4t. What I wanted to ask was do we have to say "plus or minus" in front of the 4t, or do we just leave it as positive to get a valid parametrisation?

Thanks.

Is ##y## allowed to be ##<0## along the curve? Is ##t < 0## allowed?
 
Ray Vickson said:
Is ##y## allowed to be ##<0## along the curve? Is ##t < 0## allowed?

I suppose so? The question doesn't specify so I am not sure.
 
rickonstark999 said:
I suppose so? The question doesn't specify so I am not sure.

How would you draw a graph of the relation ##x = \frac{1}{16} y^2##?
 
Ray Vickson said:
How would you draw a graph of the relation ##x = \frac{1}{16} y^2##?

You would have a sideways parabola where y can be any real number, but x cannot be below 0 because you are squaring.
 
rickonstark999 said:
You would have a sideways parabola where y can be any real number, but x cannot be below 0 because you are squaring.

OK, so now what does that tell you about ##t## in your parametrization?
 
Ray Vickson said:
OK, so now what does that tell you about ##t## in your parametrization?

From my parametrisations, t can be both positive and negative. Would you say that is correct?
 
rickonstark999 said:
Then, we can say y^2=16t^2, so that we can take the root of this and get y=4t.
No, that isn't right. If ##y^2 = 16t^2##, then ##y = \pm 4t##.
 
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Mark44 said:
No, that isn't right. If ##y^2 = 16t^2##, then ##y = \pm 4t##.

Thank you. That is what I was asking in the sentence after that.
 
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rickonstark999 said:
From my parametrisations, t can be both positive and negative. Would you say that is correct?

Mark44 said:
No, that isn't right. If ##y^2 = 16t^2##, then ##y = \pm 4t##.

rickonstark999 said:
Thank you. That is what I was asking in the sentence after that.

But @rickonstark999, you do understand that your first post above is correct and your parameterization ##x=t^2,~y=4t## with ##t## both positive and negative, ie ##-\infty < t < \infty## is a correct parameterization of your curve, right? You don't need any ##\pm## sign.
 
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