Navigating a Complex Plane Curve: A Homework Guide

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a flux integral along a complex plane curve, specifically from the point (0,0) to (2,4). Participants are examining the appropriate parameterization and limits of integration for the integral involving a vector field.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the parameterization of the curve and the limits of integration, with some suggesting that the parameter t should range from 0 to 1 instead of 0 to 2. There are attempts to clarify how the interval is defined and its implications on the evaluation of the integral.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the parameterization and limits, noting that the chosen limits should correspond to the endpoints of the path. There is an ongoing exploration of different parameterizations and their effects on the integral's evaluation.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of various ways to set up parametric equations for the curve, and the discussion includes considerations of how to ensure that the chosen parameterization accurately reflects the path being evaluated.

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Homework Statement



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this is not a simple plane curve or a close plane curve so I use the formula:
∫ F ⋅ dr/dt dt

The Attempt at a Solution


From the point (0,0) to (2,4)
Direction Vector v(t) = <2-0, 4-0>
Parametric Equation:
r(t) = (2t + 0) i + (4t + 0) j
r'(t) = 2i + 4j

∴ F(x(t),y(t)) = (4t)2i + 2(2t)(4t)j = (16t2)i + (16t2)j
F(x(t),y(t)) ⋅ r'(t) =( (16t2)i + (16t2)j ) ⋅ (2i + 4j) = 32t2 + 64t2

I feel my math is correct which leads me to believe my approach is incorrect. The final answer is supposed to be 32 evaluated from 0 to 2.

But if I finished my integral : ∫ 96t2dt = 32t3

Can someone please help me.
 

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dwn said:

Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



∫ F ⋅ dr/dt dt

The Attempt at a Solution


From the point (0,0) to (2,4)
Direction Vector v(t) = <2-0, 4-0>
Parametric Equation:
r(t) = (2t + 0) i + (4t + 0) j
r'(t) = 2i + 4j

∴ F(x(t),y(t)) = (4t)2i + 2(2t)(4t)j = (16t2)i + (16t2)j
F(x(t),y(t)) ⋅ r'(t) =( (16t2)i + (16t2)j ) ⋅ (2i + 4j) = 32t2 + 64t2

I feel my math is correct which leads me to believe my approach is incorrect. The final answer is supposed to be 32 evaluated from 0 to 2.

But if I finished my integral : ∫ 96t2dt = 32t3

Can someone please help me.

The parameter t should run from 0 to 1, rather than 0 to 2. Plug these limits into your flux integral and everything should work out.

Try the next path.
 
SteamKing said:
The parameter t should run from 0 to 1, rather than 0 to 2. Plug these limits into your flux integral and everything should work out.

Try the next path.
Thank you for your help. I had considered that but I'm still not confident on how interval is defined. Would you mind explaining that to me? All of the examples I see in the book simply set the interval from 0 to 1. Is this always the case?
 
dwn said:
Thank you for your help. I had considered that but I'm still not confident on how interval is defined. Would you mind explaining that to me? All of the examples I see in the book simply set the interval from 0 to 1. Is this always the case?

It doesn't have to be, but the interval from 0 to 1 is usually the simplest to evaluate.

The path over which you were evaluating the flux integral was y = 2x, where 0 ≤ x ≤ 2. By choosing the parameterization r(t) = 2t i + 4t j for this path, it is important to check and make sure that by plugging in the limits of t into the parametric equation, you obtain the same values of x and y for the limits of the actual path expression, hence the interval 0 ≤ t ≤ 1 when plugged into r(t) gives (0, 0) and (2, 4) for the end points of the path, which are identical to y = 2x for 0 ≤ x ≤ 2.

You could have specified r(t) = t i + 2t j, for 0 ≤ t ≤ 2, and obtained the same evaluation for the flux integral after making the appropriate integration.
 
There are an infinite number of ways to set up parametric equations for a curve. Myself, since in both of these y is a function of x, I would have just used x itself as parameter. In the first, y= 2x so that F(x, y)= y^2\vec{i}+ 2xy\vec{j}= (2x)^2\vec{i}+ 2x(2x)\vec{j}=4x^2\vec{i}+ 4x^2\vec{j}. Since y= 2x, dy= 2dx and d\vec{r}= dx\vec{i}+ dy\vec{j}= dx\vec{i}+ 2dx\vec{j}= (\vec{i}+ 2\vec{j})dx. The integral becomes
\int_0^2 (4x^2\vec{i}+ 4x^2\vec{j})\cdot(\vec{i}+ 2\vec{j})dx= \int_0^2 (4x^2+ 8x^2) dx= 12\int_0^2 x^2 dx.
The limits of integration are 0 and 2, of course, because the variable of integration is x and x goes from 2 to 4.

Similarly, the second integral is over the curve y= x^2 so that F(x, y)= y^2\vec{i}+ 2xy\vec{j}= (x^2)^2\vec{i}+ 2x(x^2)\vec{j}= x^4\vec{i}+ 2x^3\vec{j}. Further, since y= x^2, dy= 2xdx so that d\vec{r}= dx\vec{i}+ dy\vec{j}= dx\vec{i}+ 2xdx\vec{j}= (\vec{i}+ 2x\vec{j})dx. The integral becomes
\int_0^2 (x^4\vec{i}+ 4x^2\vec{j})\cdot (\vec{i}+ 2x\vec{j})dx= \int_0^2( x^4+ 8x^3) dx.

Again, the limits of integration are 0 to 2 because x is the variable of integration and x goes from 0 to 2.
 

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