Is this Differential Equation Exact?

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The discussion revolves around determining whether a given differential equation is exact and the subsequent steps to solve it. The equation presented involves functions of both t and y, specifically in the context of differential equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the identification of M and N from the differential equation and the process of integrating N with respect to y. There is a focus on verifying the exactness of the equation and the implications of the integration process.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants identifying a mistake in the integration step. One participant acknowledges the error and indicates that correcting it led to a successful outcome, although no explicit solution is provided.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the importance of correctly identifying the functions to integrate, which is crucial for determining the exactness of the differential equation. The conversation reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the steps involved in the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement


Determine whether exact. If yes, solve.

(4t3y-15t2-y)dt + (t4+3y2-t)dy = 0


The Attempt at a Solution



M= (4t3y-15t2-y)
N= (t4+3y2-t)

My=4t3-1
Nt= 4t3-1

So, yes it is exact.


fy= M = (4t3y-15t2-y)
f(t,y) = ∫ N dy
= 2t3y2-15t2y-(1/2)y2+g(t)

ft= 6t2y2-30ty+ g'(t)


This is where I've gotten stuck. I know I need to set this equal to M, and then all of the t's should cancel, but from what I've done, that won't work. So, this means I've made a mistake somewhere else.

Thank you!
 
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Here's your problem:
musicmar said:
fy= M = (4t3y-15t2-y)
Then you fix it here:
f(t,y) = ∫ N dy
and then go back to the mistake:
= 2t3y2-15t2y-(1/2)y2+g(t)
 
hi musicmar! :smile:
musicmar said:
f(t,y) = ∫ N dy
= 2t3y2-15t2y-(1/2)y2+g(t)

nooo, that's ∫ M dy, isn't it? :redface:

you need ∫ N dy :smile:
 
Yes, you're right. I just did it with N instead of M (oops.) and it worked out perfectly. Thank you so much!
 

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