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The discussion revolves around a calorimetry problem involving a calorimeter, water, and a metal mass. The scenario describes a situation where a hot metal is introduced to water, leading to some water boiling off while the remaining water reaches a temperature of 45°C. Participants are examining the implications of these temperature changes and the physical principles involved.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants are questioning the validity of the problem setup, particularly the apparent contradiction of water boiling while still being at 45°C. Some suggest that localized heating could allow for boiling without the entire body of water reaching the boiling point. Others note that boiling point can vary with ambient pressure, which may affect the scenario.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have offered insights into the behavior of water and heat transfer, while others are still grappling with the initial assumptions of the problem.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the boiling point of water and its dependence on pressure, which may influence the interpretation of the problem. Additionally, the specific heat capacities and latent heat values provided are being considered in the context of the problem's requirements.

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Homework Statement



A 250g calorimeter made of a certain metal contains 200g of water at 28'C. When 500g mass of the same metal and at a temperature of 117'C is dropped gently onto the water, an amount of the water boils off whiles the remaining wager rises to 45'C. Calculate the mass of water that boiled off at the boiling point of 100'C.

Specific heat capacity of metal=420J/kg K
Specific latent heat of vaporisation of water=2.456x10^6J/kg
Specific heat capacity of water=4200J/kg K

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The Attempt at a Solution


I think the question is not making any sense because how can the water boil an still be at 45'C(1.0atm) since boiling occurs at a constant temperature(100'C)?
 
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Aceix said:

Homework Statement



A 250g calorimeter made of a certain metal contains 200g of water at 28'C. When 500g mass of the same metal and at a temperature of 117'C is dropped gently onto the water, an amount of the water boils off whiles the remaining wager rises to 45'C. Calculate the mass of water that boiled off at the boiling point of 100'C.

Specific heat capacity of metal=420J/kg K
Specific latent heat of vaporisation of water=2.456x10^6J/kg
Specific heat capacity of water=4200J/kg K

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I think the question is not making any sense because how can the water boil an still be at 45'C(1.0atm) since boiling occurs at a constant temperature(100'C)?
The water closest to the heated mass can get hot enough to boil without the entire body of water getting to the boiling point.

Also, the boiling point of water is not a constant - the BP changes with ambient air pressure. Lower air pressure is tied to a lower boiling point.
 
Then I can say
Heat lost from hot metal at 177'C goes to increase the temperature of m mass of water to 100'C and turns it to vapour, some increases the temp of the calorimeter and the remaining increases the temp of (200-m)g of the water to 45'C?

Aceix.
 
Aceix said:
Then I can say
Heat lost from hot metal at 177'C goes to increase the temperature of m mass of water to 100'C and turns it to vapour, some increases the temp of the calorimeter and the remaining increases the temp of (200-m)g of the water to 45'C?

Aceix.
Yes.
 

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