Is this the correct way to quantify these integers?

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The discussion revolves around the correct way to quantify integers, specifically focusing on representing nonzero integers using mathematical notation. Participants explore different formulations and their clarity in conveying the intended meaning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a specific quantifier correctly symbolizes that integers ## a, b, c, d ## cannot be ## 0 ##.
  • Another participant suggests that while the notation is non-standard, clarity for the reader is paramount, proposing a more conventional representation.
  • A third participant reiterates the initial question about the quantifier's correctness and offers alternative notations for representing nonzero integers.
  • Participants express gratitude for clarifications provided by others in the thread.

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There is no clear consensus on the best notation to use, and multiple competing views on the representation of nonzero integers remain present in the discussion.

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Participants have not resolved the question of which notation is preferable, and there are varying opinions on the standardization of the proposed quantifiers.

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I just have this random question and I was wondering if the following quantifier below is correct to represent/symbolize nonzero integers ## a, b, c, d ##:
## \forall a, b, c, d\in\mathbb{Z}_{\neq 0} ##
Does the above quantifier represent/symbolize that all of the integers ## a, b, c, d ## cannot be ## 0 ##? Is this correct?
 
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It is non-standard, but all that really matters is that the reader understands what you mean. I think they will.
If you want to write it perfectly correctly you could write:
$$\forall a,b,c,d\in \mathbb Z - \{0\}$$
 
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Math100 said:
TL;DR Summary: I just have this random question and I was wondering if the following quantifier below is correct to represent/symbolize nonzero integers ## a, b, c, d ##:
## \forall a, b, c, d\in\mathbb{Z}_{\neq 0} ##

Does the above quantifier represent/symbolize that all of the integers ## a, b, c, d ## cannot be ## 0 ##? Is this correct?
Or, perhaps ##\{ a, b, c, d \} \subset \mathbb{Z} - \{ 0 \}##

-Dan
 
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