Is this the right way to find impedance using complex power and volta

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The discussion revolves around calculating the impedance of a load in a circuit based on given complex power and voltage expressions. The subject area includes electrical engineering concepts related to complex power, impedance, and phasor analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the conversion of voltage and power to polar form and question the validity of the original poster's calculations. There are discussions about the interpretation of real and reactive power, the phase difference, and the implications of negative impedance values.

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Participants are actively questioning the assumptions made regarding the power values and the calculations of impedance. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct interpretation of power components and the need to find the RMS values of voltage and current. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the calculation of the imaginary part of impedance.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the voltage expression and the phase angle, as well as concerns about negative impedance values, which are being debated among participants. The original poster's calculations are being scrutinized for accuracy and clarity.

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Homework Statement



The load (Z) in the circuit below absorbs a complex power of 54+j46 VA when the voltage across it is 3cos(400t+-60)V. Use this information to determine the impedance of the load

Homework Equations



P = V^2 / Z

The Attempt at a Solution



first convert V to polar form
3 < -60
convert power to polar form
70.9<40.4
Apply the formula
V^2/P= 9<-120/70.9<-40.4
=.1268<-160.4
convert to rectangular

Z=-0.11947- j0.04248 ohms

I'm not sure if the answer is correct
 
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Nope. U can't get such funny angles... take 54 as real power, which is equal to VI cos∅. and take 46 as reactive power which is VI sin∅. You have already found the phase difference (∅) between V and I as 40.4... Now Find RMS value of V from the voltage expression given, and hence the impedance using V and I.
 
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And BTW, Z=R+jX... R cannot be negative!
 
ShreyasR said:
Nope. Z cannot be negative... IMPOSSIBLE! Now take 54 as real power, which is equal to VI cos∅. and take 46 as reactive power which is VI sin∅. You have already found the phase difference (∅) between V and I as 40.4... Now Find RMS value of V from the voltage expression given, and hence the impedance using V and I.

Is this what your trying to say ?

So Vrms = 3/√2

Therefore solve for Irms

which is 54 = 3/√2Icos(40.1)
I=1.66

Z=(3/√2) / 1.66

Then find Z but you don't have an imaginary part ?
 
I will be 39.439 A... You missed a bracket there... 54 = (3/√2) I cos(40.4)... You have V=3cos(400t+-60)... Current I = 39.439√2 cos(400t+-60+40.4)... Now u can find the imaginary part? This is a complicated question...
 
About that part... V=3cos(400t+-60)... What do u mean by '+-'? Can you please be clear?
 
I just copied the function off the question, I'm assuming it's negative
Therefore
V(t)=3<-60
I(t)=39.439√2<-20.4

Z= V/I
=.0537<-39.6

X=3/29.432sqrt(2)sin(-40.4)

.0537 -j0.03486

Is that part correct
 
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