Is Velocity Always Constant in Physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the question of whether velocity is always constant in physics, exploring the implications of mathematical definitions and notations related to velocity and position. Participants engage in a technical examination of differential equations and their interpretations within the context of physics.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that defining velocity as dx/dt implies it must be constant, while others challenge this assertion, questioning the assumptions behind such definitions.
  • One participant claims that if time is considered constant, then velocity must also be constant, leading to the conclusion that dx = vdt implies v = constant.
  • Another participant objects to the notation used, arguing that x = x(t) is an abuse of notation and that it leads to ambiguity in the discussion.
  • Some participants assert that velocity can vary with time, providing examples where velocity is a function of time, thus contradicting the claim that it must be constant.
  • There are multiple objections raised regarding the mathematical rigor of the arguments presented, with some participants emphasizing the need for precise definitions and adherence to mathematical grammar.
  • Discussions also touch on the validity of using shorthand notations in the context of differential mathematics, with some arguing that such notations can obfuscate the underlying mathematics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of velocity and the validity of the mathematical arguments presented. Disagreements persist over the interpretation of mathematical notation and the implications for the constancy of velocity.

Contextual Notes

Participants express concerns about the ambiguity of terms and notations used in the discussion, highlighting the potential for misinterpretation. There are unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions that influence the arguments made.

  • #31
What the hell is going on here.

I read someone arguing that velocity was a constant and now there is talk of making t a dependent variable.

Can someone explain what points are trying to be made here?
 
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  • #32
actually the problem was:
whenever one defines V as dx/dt V has to be constant.
if V is variable then dx=Vdt+tdV instead of dx=Vdt.

what do you think of it as a mathematician, ObsessiveMathsFreak?
 
  • #33
And to me it seems that Dock is going through a phase I once went through... except that Dock is promoting his misunderstandings to the level of belief while I spent effort trying to figure out the underlying structures that rigorously support these types of manipulations.


I thought it might help dock to see the explicit pieces that go into some of these manipulations; I know it would've helped me back then.

Hurkyl
 
  • #34
Actually, dx = vdt does not imply that v is a constant, it merely implies that x = vt − ∫tdv. I have no problem with this.
 
  • #35
v = dx/dt

I think this fact is agreed upon by all at least.

What does it mean. It means that velocity is the instantaneous rate of change of distance. In other words, at any given instant, v is a measure of how fast you are going.


but what happens in the case of

x = Sin(t)

does your formula work then.
 

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