Is x^y the Greatest Common Divisor of (5x+3y) and (13x+8y)?

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The discussion revolves around the problem of determining whether \(x^y\) is the greatest common divisor of the expressions \(5x + 3y\) and \(13x + 8y\). Participants explore the implications of this assertion within the context of polynomial gcds.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Some participants question the validity of the original assertion regarding \(x^y\) being the gcd. Others suggest exploring the relationship between the gcd of the given expressions and the gcd of \(x\) and \(y\). There are mentions of applying Euclid's algorithm to analyze the polynomials involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants raising doubts about the original claim and suggesting alternative interpretations. There is no explicit consensus, but some guidance towards using Euclid's algorithm has been provided.

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Participants are navigating through potential misconceptions about the properties of gcds and the specific case of polynomial expressions. The original poster's assumptions are being critically examined.

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Homework Statement



prove that: x^y=(5x+3y)^(13x+8y)

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Can I say that x^y divides both 5x+3y and 13x+8y and go on from there or what?

Then in case one u could multiply 5x+3y by 13 and 13x+8y by 5 and do the difference and you'll get that x^y divides y

Case 2: multiply 5x+3y by 8 and 13x+8y by 3 and then we get x^y divides x.

And from case 1 and case 2 we can conclude that x^y=(5x+3y)^(13x+8y).

Note that ^ stands for the greatest common divisor.
 
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I strongly recommend that you NOT try to prove things that are not true!

Now, what is the problem really? For one thing, [itex]8^{21}[/itex] is not equal to 1.

Are you trying to prove that [itex]x^y[/itex] is the greatest common divisor of [itex](5x+ 3y)^{13x+ 8y}[/itex]? Unfortunately, that's still not true. [itex]13^{34}]/itex] is not divisible by 2.[/itex]
 
HallsofIvy said:
I strongly recommend that you NOT try to prove things that are not true!

So that is not true or what?
 
Is this the question?:
Prove that the greatest common divisor of 5x+3y and 13x+8y is the same as the greatest common divisor of x and y.

or in notation I would understand:

Prove that gcd(5x+3y,13x+8y) = gcd(x,y)

And I suggest applying Euclid's algorithm to the polynomials on the left.
 
Joffan said:
Is this the question?:
Prove that the greatest common divisor of 5x+3y and 13x+8y is the same as the greatest common divisor of x and y.

or in notation I would understand:

Prove that gcd(5x+3y,13x+8y) = gcd(x,y)

And I suggest applying Euclid's algorithm to the polynomials on the left.

Yes I've solved it already thank you.
 
Good... I hope your solution looked something like:


Since ##\text{gcd}(m,n) = \text{gcd}(m-n,n)##,
[tex] \begin{align}<br /> \text{gcd}(13x+8y,5x+3y) &= \text{gcd}(8x+5y,5x+3y)\\<br /> &= \text{gcd}(3x+2y,5x+3y)\\<br /> &= \text{gcd}(5x+3y,3x+2y)\\<br /> &= \text{gcd}(2x+y,3x+2y)\\<br /> & \dots<br /> \end{align}[/tex]etc.
 

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