Sandwich Theorem proof lim (x,y) -> (0,0) (4x^3*y^4)/(3y^4+5x^8)

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the limit of the function (4x^3*y^4)/(3y^4+5x^8) as (x,y) approaches (0,0). Participants are exploring the application of the Sandwich Theorem to prove that this limit is zero.

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  • The original poster attempts to establish the limit by considering specific paths, such as y=kx, and is seeking a way to prove the limit definitively. They question how to determine the lower limit for the proof.
  • Some participants suggest examining the behavior of the denominator and the implications of dropping terms to analyze the limit's bounds.
  • Others discuss the use of absolute values to establish the lower limit and question the implications of including negative signs.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, particularly regarding the behavior of the function as it approaches the limit and the implications of the terms in the numerator and denominator.

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Homework Statement



lim (x,y) -> (0,0) (4x^3*y^4)/(3y^4+5x^8)

When y=kx -> lim x->0 = 0
The limit definitely is zero, but I can't prove it.

The Attempt at a Solution



? < lim (x,y) -> (0,0) (4x^3*y^4)/(3y^4+5x^8) < lim (x,y) -> (0,0) (4|x^3|*y^4+(15/4)|x^3|x^8)/(3y^4+5x^8) = (3/4)|x^3|

How do you find the lower limit of such a proof?
Can it be said that lim (x,y) -> (0,0) (4x^3*y^4)/(3y^4+5x^8) is equal to lim (x,y) -> (0,0) (|4x^3|*y^4)/(3y^4+5x^8) and therefore find the 'sandwich' of the new function?
 
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Hint: Your denominator is non-negative. If you drop the ##5x^8## from the denominator, the fraction will be larger in absolute value than it is now.
 
Thanks, that is quite a simple solution. However, what can I use for the smaller valued function? Seeing as there is an x^3 in the numerator, I can't use 0 for the lower limit.
 
Oh wait, I just need to put in a negative sign for the lower limit... it's late

Cheers mate
 
Phyrrus said:
Thanks, that is quite a simple solution. However, what can I use for the smaller valued function? Seeing as there is an x^3 in the numerator, I can't use 0 for the lower limit.

You can if you put absolute value signs around the whole fraction. Remember if the absolute value of something goes to zero, then the something does.
 

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