[itex]\int tan^{5}x dx[/itex] , Two Methods, are both correct?

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The discussion revolves around the integral of \( \tan^5 x \) and the validity of two different methods presented for solving it. Participants are examining the correctness of the methods and their final results.

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  • Participants discuss two methods for integrating \( \tan^5 x \), noting that while Method 2 appears simpler, both methods yield different results. Some participants question the substitutions used in the methods and the implications of those substitutions on the final answers.

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There is an ongoing examination of the methods, with some participants suggesting that neither method is correct while others provide alternative approaches and clarifications. The conversation includes tips on making substitutions clearer and evaluating integrals more accurately.

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Participants are addressing potential misunderstandings in the application of u-substitution and the handling of integrals, indicating that clarity in the substitution process is crucial for accurate results.

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Are both methods and final results correct?\int tan^{5}xdxMethod 1:

\int tan^{3}xtan^{2}xdx

\int tanx^{3} (sec^{2}x - 1) dx

\int tan^{3}xsec^{2}x dx - \int tanxtan^{2}x dx

\int tan^{3}xsec^{2}x dx - \int tanxsec^{2}x dx + \int tanx

\int u^{3}du - \int u du - \int \frac{1}{u} du

\frac{1}{4}tan^{4}x - \frac{1}{2}tanx - ln|cosx| + C
Method 2:

\int tan^{5}x dx

\int tan^{4}tanx

\int (sec^{2}x - 1)^{2}tanxdx

\int (sec^{4}x - 2sec^{2}x + 1)tanx dx

\int (u^{2} - 2u +1) du

\frac{1}{3}tan^{3}x - tan^{2}x + tanx + C
 
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Although Method 2 is much easier and a lot more straightforward, both methods look correct, despite having different answers.
 
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Thanks Yosty.
 
I don't understand what you are doing.
Tip:
Make absolutely clear WHAT substitution you are using!
Here is how I would do it:
u=\tan(x)\to{du}=\sec^{2}(x)dx=(u^{2}+1)dx \to{dx}=\frac{du}{u^{2}+1}
Thus, you are to evaluate the integral:
\int\frac{u^{5}}{u^{2}+1}du= \int\frac{u^{3}(u^{2}+1-1)}{u^{2}+1}du =\int{u^{3}}du-\int\frac{u^{3}}{u^{2}+1}du
The last integral can be written as:
-\int\frac{u^{3}}{u^{2}+1}du=-\int{u}du+\int\frac{u}{u^{2}+1}du
Thus, collecting together, you'll have:
\frac{1}{4}\tan^{4}(x)-\frac{1}{2}\tan^{2}(x)+\frac{1}{2}\ln(\tan^{2}(x)+1)
where the latter term can be simplified to -\ln|\cos(x)|
 
Thus, NEITHER of your expressions are correct, although the first comes closer.
 
Method 2 is also incorrect. Your u-substitution, ##u=\sec x## lost something in the translation. With this, you should get ##du = \sec x \tan x\, dx##, but you apparently used ##du = \tan x \, dx##.
 
Thank you Arildno,


Method 1:

\int tan^{3}xtan^{2}xdx

\int tanx^{3} (sec^{2}x - 1) dx

\int tan^{3}xsec^{2}x dx - \int tanxtan^{2}x dx

\int tan^{3}xsec^{2}x dx - \int tanxsec^{2}x dx + \int tanx dx


I did three separate substitutions.

For \int tan^{3}xsec^{2}x dx

I let u = tanx, and du = sec^{2}x dx

For \int tanxsec^{2}x dx

I let u = tanx, and du = sec^{2}x dx

For \int tanx dx,

I solved by writing as \int \frac{sinx}{cosx} dx

and then letting u = cosx, so -du = sinx dx

This produces:

\int u^{3} du - \int u du - \int \frac{1}{u} du
 
Well, int udu goes to 1/2u^2, doesn't it?, rather than your 1/2u?
 

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