IVP involving Eigenvalues and Population Dynamics

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a mathematical model describing the interaction of two species in a habitat, represented by a system of differential equations. Participants are tasked with finding the solution to these equations given specific initial conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the computation of eigenvalues and eigenvectors as part of solving the system. There is uncertainty regarding the correctness of the characteristic polynomial derived, and questions arise about the application of specific formulas for the general solution and the constants involved.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the eigenvalue calculation and the implications for the unique solution. Some guidance has been offered regarding the characteristic polynomial, but no consensus has been reached on the overall approach or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express concern about the coefficients in the equations and their potential impact on the solutions. There is a reference to a similar problem with different coefficients, indicating a possible source of confusion or comparison.

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Homework Statement


Consider the interaction of two species of animals in a habitat. We are told that the change of the populations and can be modeled by the equations

\frac{dx}{dt}= 0.1x-0.8y
\frac{dy}{dt}=-0.2x+0.7y

Find the solution to the above equations with initial values x(0)=9 and y(0)=7
x(t)=
y(t)=

The Attempt at a Solution



We are asked to compute the eigenvalues and I know then you have to find the corresponding eigenvectors. I did this but i am not sure I'm doing it correctly.
This was my process: p.s. not sure how to use a template for a matrix so I'm just going to wing it...

(A-λ)V = (R1) 0.1-λ -0.8
(R2) -0.2 0.7-λ

So I compute the characteristic polynomial and get λ2-0.8λ-0.9 which gives some pretty funky values for λ...

I actually found the solutions to this exact question, except with different coefficients and it seems like there is a formula I am missing in order to get the particular solution for y(t).
The general solution is supposed to look like (I'll do this using the vector Y=(x,y) for simplicity):
Y=k1eλ1t*V1+k2eλ2t*V2
where V is the eigenvector.

The fishy part comes when I go to plug in the IV's and solve for the constants k1 and k2. It seems like for y(t) they are using an equation that looks like
y(t)= k11-a)eλ1t+k22-a)eλ2t
where a is the first coefficient in the dx/dt equation...or something along those lines...
If anyone knows what I'm missing here, please just tell me straight up what's going on. I've been investigating this for two days and its due tomorrow at 2pm. I have a feeling it has to do with the fact that my coefficients are very small. Also, it's a population model so maybe it has something to do with the interactions of the two species..?
Let me know if you want more information. any help is really appreciated.
Thanks****Click on the link to see the same question (different coefficients) including the answers. Scroll down to page 7, question#2 and you'll see the complete question. http://math.la.asu.edu/~cheng/MAT274F2010/T3P2.pdf
 
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Adinabobina said:

Homework Statement


Consider the interaction of two species of animals in a habitat. We are told that the change of the populations and can be modeled by the equations

\frac{dx}{dt}= 0.1x-0.8y
\frac{dy}{dt}=-0.2x+0.7y

Find the solution to the above equations with initial values x(0)=9 and y(0)=7
x(t)=
y(t)=

The Attempt at a Solution



We are asked to compute the eigenvalues and I know then you have to find the corresponding eigenvectors. I did this but i am not sure I'm doing it correctly.
This was my process: p.s. not sure how to use a template for a matrix so I'm just going to wing it...

(A-λ)V = (R1) 0.1-λ -0.8
(R2) -0.2 0.7-λ

So I compute the characteristic polynomial and get λ2-0.8λ-0.9 which gives some pretty funky values for λ...

I actually found the solutions to this exact question, except with different coefficients and it seems like there is a formula I am missing in order to get the particular solution for y(t).
The general solution is supposed to look like (I'll do this using the vector Y=(x,y) for simplicity):
Y=k1eλ1t*V1+k2eλ2t*V2
where V is the eigenvector.

The fishy part comes when I go to plug in the IV's and solve for the constants k1 and k2. It seems like for y(t) they are using an equation that looks like
y(t)= k11-a)eλ1t+k22-a)eλ2t
where a is the first coefficient in the dx/dt equation...or something along those lines...
If anyone knows what I'm missing here, please just tell me straight up what's going on. I've been investigating this for two days and its due tomorrow at 2pm. I have a feeling it has to do with the fact that my coefficients are very small. Also, it's a population model so maybe it has something to do with the interactions of the two species..?
Let me know if you want more information. any help is really appreciated.
Thanks


****Click on the link to see the same question (different coefficients) including the answers. Scroll down to page 7, question#2 and you'll see the complete question. http://math.la.asu.edu/~cheng/MAT274F2010/T3P2.pdf

For one thing your characteristic polynomial λ2-0.8λ-0.9 is just a little wrong. There is a decimal point in the wrong place. Fix it and you'll get nice eigenvalues.
 
Dick said:
For one thing your characteristic polynomial λ2-0.8λ-0.9 is just a little wrong. There is a decimal point in the wrong place. Fix it and you'll get nice eigenvalues.

Thank you. Anything about the unique solution part? Thats where I really need help
Thanks.
 
Adinabobina said:
Thank you. Anything about the unique solution part? Thats where I really need help
Thanks.

First find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors.
 

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