[Javascript?] help with functions: isOdd in terms of isEven

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The discussion revolves around defining the functions isOdd and isEven in JavaScript, specifically focusing on implementing isEven in terms of isOdd. Participants explore various approaches, syntax issues, and logical operators involved in the implementation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that isOdd should return a boolean value rather than a string, emphasizing the importance of clear return types in functions.
  • There is confusion about how to correctly implement isEven using the logical operator "!" and the necessity of calling isOdd within its definition.
  • One participant proposes that if isOdd(x) returns false, then x must be even, indicating a potential approach to defining isEven.
  • Several participants point out syntax errors in the proposed implementations, particularly regarding the use of comparison operators and the structure of if statements.
  • There are discussions about the correct use of the modulo operator and the implications of using logical negation in the context of function returns.
  • Some participants provide alternative implementations and corrections to earlier attempts, but there is no consensus on a single correct approach.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding the implementation details, particularly around syntax and logical operations. There is no consensus on the correct implementation of the functions, as multiple competing views and approaches are presented.

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Limitations include unresolved syntax errors, misunderstandings of logical operators, and varying interpretations of how to structure the functions. Some participants also mention the importance of specifying the programming language in the thread title for clarity.

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Readers interested in JavaScript programming, particularly those learning about function definitions, logical operators, and debugging syntax errors in code.

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Problem statement:

Define isOdd function, and then define isEven function in terms of isOdd function.

My attempt is ridiculous:

Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
	if (x % 2 ===0){
		return isOdd;
	}else{
		return "is even";
	}
};
 
 var isEven = function (){
	return;
 };
 
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in java:

public boolean isOdd(int x) { return ( (x%2) == 1 ); } // returns boolean true if odd

public boolean isEven(int x) { return ( (x%2) == 0 ); } // returns boolean true if even

or alternatively:

public boolean isEven(int x) { return !isOdd(x); }

basically don't return strings for "is" style functions better to return clearly defined boolean values. With strings you have to contend with remembering whether to use upper / lowercase and a host of other little problems each of which can cause a programming error in your code.
 


mindauggas said:
Problem statement:

Define isOdd function, and then define isEven function in terms of isOdd function.

My attempt is ridiculous:

Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
	if (x % 2 ===0){
		return isOdd;
	}else{
		return "is even";
	}
};
 
 var isEven = function (){
	return;
 };

What language are you programming in? Javascript?

Usually x % 2 gives the remainder when dividing x by 2, so if x % 2 ==0, then is x odd or even?

When you write something like
Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
	//do stuff
        return isOdd;
	}
};

You are defining a function that returns itself, which doesn't make much sense. Instead, try returning a boolean value:

Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
	//if x is odd
        return true;
        //otherwise
        return false;
	}
};
 


Sorry, it's Javascript (my justification for not mentioning the programming language is that I'm new in programming and I presumed that it is easy to identify the language just by glancing ant the syntax - i learned that i was wrong ... ).
 


Another important reason to include the name of the language in the title of your post is to tell people what's inside, so they don't waste their time opening a post about a language they don't know anything about. It also attracts people who do know the language, and might be in a position to help you.
 
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gabbagabbahey said:
What language are you programming in? Javascript?

Usually x % 2 gives the remainder when dividing x by 2, so if x % 2 ==0, then is x odd or even?

When you write something like
Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
	//do stuff
        return isOdd;
	}
};

You are defining a function that returns itself, which doesn't make much sense. Instead, try returning a boolean value:

Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
	//if x is odd
        return true;
        //otherwise
        return false;
	}
};

Yes, JavaScript. I would use the litteral booleans, if I had only one function to work with. However, I don't understand how to define the isEven function in term of isOdd (I need to use the logical operator "!" (not) somehow, but it is confusing. And from this confusion many kinds of non-workable ideas arise ...
 


mindauggas said:
Yes, JavaScript. I would use the litteral booleans, if I had only one function to work with. However, I don't understand how to define the isEven function in term of isOdd (I need to use the logical operator "!" (not) somehow, but it is confusing. And from this confusion many kinds of non-workable ideas arise ...

In the definition of isEven() you can test the number x by calling isOdd(x). If isOdd(x) returns false, x must be even.
 


Mark44 said:
In the definition of isEven() you can test the number x by calling isOdd(x). If isOdd(x) returns false, x must be even.

Here is the original problem statement:

PHP:
Remember the functions isOdd and isEven from Exercise 3.4?

We'd like you to code them here again! But this time, the aim is to define one function in terms of the other using the ! symbol.

Define isOdd, and then define isEven in terms of isOdd.

To define the isOdd function, you will need to use:

a) The modulo % symbol.
b) If / else statement in the body of the function

I have to have both the isEven and isOdd funtions.

Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
	if (!x % 2 ===0){
		return "x is odd";
	}
};
 
var isEven = function (x){
	isOdd(x);
	return !isOdd(x);
};

I know this is WRONG, just don't know how to do it :)
 


Think about what the type being returned from isOdd is.

Does using ! on that type make any sense?

Also
Code:
 if(!x % 2 ===0)

is incorrect. That says "IF (NOT X) MOD 2 ===0". Try to rewrite this using the != operator.
 
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mindauggas said:
I have to have both the isEven and isOdd funtions.

Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
	if (!x % 2 ===0){
		return "x is odd";
	}
};
David already pointed out what was wrong with your if expression. The other thing is that you DON'T want to return a string. A function can return a boolean constant (i.e., true or false).
mindauggas said:
Code:
var isEven = function (x){
	isOdd(x);
	return !isOdd(x);
};

I know this is WRONG, just don't know how to do it :)
Try this:
Code:
var isEven = function (x){
	[STRIKE]isOdd(x);[/STRIKE]
	return !isOdd(x);
};
 
  • #11


Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
[I][B]	if ((x % 2)!=== 0){[/B][/I]
		return true;
	}
};
 
var isEven = function (x){
	return !isOdd(x);
};

Tried it like that, but it seems to be sintacticaly incorrect. I got an error: "missing operand; found =" on line 2
 
  • #12


mindauggas said:
Code:
	if ((x % 2)!=== 0){[/B][/I]

Tried it like that, but it seems to be sintacticaly incorrect. I got an error: "missing operand; found =" on line 2

When you write it like that, order of operations is to first compute (x%2), then try to compare it to 0 using the comparison operator "!===", but "!===" is not a valid comparison operator in javascript. There is no javascript comparison operator for "is not exactly equal to", so instead, you could test whether (x%2) is exactly equal to 0, and then take the logical negative of the comparison:

Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
	if(!((x % 2)===0)){
		return true;
	}
};

Additionally, you should also specify that the function should return false when (x%2)===2, which could be done like

Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
	if(!((x % 2)===0)){
		return true;
        }else{
	        return false;
        }
};

or like

Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
	if(!((x % 2)===0)){
		return true;
        }
        return false;
};

or, without using the logical not operator "!",
Code:
var isOdd = function (x){
	if((x % 2)===0){
		return false;
        }else{
	        return true;
        }
};
 
  • #14
Solved, thanks to all :)
 

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