Jet + ion lifting hovering jet will it work?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using an ion lifter powered by a turbojet alternator for lifting a jet engine, inspired by concepts from science fiction. Participants explore the theoretical and practical aspects of ion propulsion and its potential applications in vertical takeoff and landing (VTOL) aircraft.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether an alternator connected to a turbojet could generate sufficient voltage to power an ion lifter.
  • Another participant references ion loudspeakers, suggesting that if air can be moved to produce sound, it might also be possible to achieve lift.
  • A third participant mentions that while Deep Space One utilized ion propulsion, it required significant power to generate minimal thrust, indicating challenges for VTOL applications.
  • Another participant proposes that if a jet engine is already in use, redirecting its thrust could provide a more effective means of achieving self-levitation compared to relying solely on ion lifters.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the viability of ion lifters for lifting jet engines, with some suggesting potential while others highlight significant limitations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the practicality of the proposed idea.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the high power requirements for ion propulsion and the potential inefficiency of using ion lifters for heavy applications like jet engines, which may depend on specific conditions and definitions of lift and thrust.

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ok, I am not a physics student, engineer, or mathematician, but i have an idea i need to know will work or not. we've all undoubtedly seen star wars ep 1 with the podracer race...floating engines. would an alternator connected to a turbojet produce enough voltage to power an ion lifter? are there any ion lifters powerful enough to lift a jet engine?
 
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Do you know anything about ION loudspeakers?

Link:
http://www.ee.vill.edu/ion/p12.html
The ion speaker takes advantage of the corona discharge effect to produce sound.

If you can move air to generate sound, then why not lift?

You could be on to something.
 
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Besides, if you've already got a jet engine, you could divert the thrust from that to be self-levitating, and you'd get a lot more power from them!
 

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