Jumping up on a rotating Earth

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The discussion centers on the conservation of angular and linear momentum when a man jumps vertically at the equator of a rotating Earth. It is established that while the radius (r) increases during the jump, the linear momentum (p) remains constant, leading to a decrease in angular velocity. The key takeaway is that angular momentum (J) is conserved due to the vector nature of the cross product, which considers only the component of linear momentum that is perpendicular to the radius. Thus, both angular and linear momentum are conserved within the system of the Earth and the man.

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Hello,

I know it suppose to be a relatively basic question but still somehow I can't fully understand it.
Let assume that a man jumps vertically on the equator, while the Earth is of course rotating. What will happen to the value of his linear momentum in the horizontal axis?
It seems to me that if the angular momentum must be conserved, than the linear momentum must decrease, because:
J = p x r
And since r is increased due to the jump
p must decrease
Is it correct? If so how is it possible since both angular momentum and linear momentum must be conserved?

Thank you kindly.
 
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The angular and linear momentum of the system (earth+man) will be conserved (because there are by assumption ~no external forces or torques on the system). The man, depending upon how he jumps, can change momentum for himself (and exactly equally and oppositely for the earth).
 
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Guywithquestions said:
Summary: If a man jumps off the equator, What will happen to the value of his linear momentum in the horizontal axis?

Hello,

I know it suppose to be a relatively basic question but still somehow I can't fully understand it.
Let assume that a man jumps vertically on the equator, while the Earth is of course rotating. What will happen to the value of his linear momentum in the horizontal axis?
It seems to me that if the angular momentum must be conserved, than the linear momentum must decrease, because:
J = p x r
And since r is increased due to the jump
p must decrease
Is it correct? If so how is it possible since both angular momentum and linear momentum must be conserved?

Thank you kindly.
His linear momentum remains constant. So while the radius for calculating angular momentum increases his angular velocity with respect to the center of rotation must decrease.

Below is a quick vector diagram of the situation:
The green arrow is his Vertical jump speed
Blue arrow is his tangential velocity due to the rotation of the Earth
Red arrows are his resultant velocity broken into two sections of equal time.
Cyan lines represent the angles swept out by the radial line.
Note that for the first time section of his trajectory the cyan line has swept through a larger angle than it does during the second time section of equal length. The cyan line grows in length but rotates slower as time goes on.
Momentum.png
 
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Thank you for answering!
My problem rised from the equation j=p x r
And since r is increased and p (linear momentum) stays constant it seems as though j (angular momentum) must increase as well (contrary to staying constant).
If I understand correctly from your drawing it can be seen that the angle between the radius and the velocity vector increases and therefore the cross product stays the same over time.
 
Guywithquestions said:
And since r is increased and p (linear momentum) stays constant it seems as though j (angular momentum) must increase as well (contrary to staying constant).
Remember that angular momentum is not just the product of the magnitudes of r and p. It is the vector cross product. One way to understand the cross product is that it is not p that counts. It is only the component of p that is at right angles to r.
 

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